1 00:00:04,010 --> 00:00:02,360 embrace yourself because you're about to 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:04,020 dive into another free first hour 3 00:00:07,369 --> 00:00:06,210 episode of the higher side chats and we 4 00:00:08,810 --> 00:00:07,379 just want to let you know that whether 5 00:00:10,820 --> 00:00:08,820 you're looking for a companion through 6 00:00:12,379 --> 00:00:10,830 your paranoid insomnia entertaining 7 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:12,389 yourself through one of life's mundane 8 00:00:16,070 --> 00:00:14,370 activities or trying to ward off the 9 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:16,080 internal scream to all those sad 10 00:00:20,450 --> 00:00:18,690 smothered Souls around the office THC is 11 00:00:22,099 --> 00:00:20,460 here and you should know that every 12 00:00:24,140 --> 00:00:22,109 episode of the higher side chats has an 13 00:00:26,509 --> 00:00:24,150 entire second hour four plus members 14 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:26,519 sign up at the higher side chats plus 15 00:00:31,580 --> 00:00:29,010 calm and you get years of plus show 16 00:00:33,380 --> 00:00:31,590 archives lifetime forum access the 17 00:00:37,130 --> 00:00:33,390 special invite to Greg Carla's monthly 18 00:00:40,580 --> 00:00:37,140 joint sessions mp3s of THC music bonus 19 00:00:42,590 --> 00:00:40,590 episodes for videos and 10% off t-shirts 20 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:42,600 grinders and whatever else ends up in 21 00:00:46,580 --> 00:00:44,610 the higher side store it's eight dollars 22 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:46,590 a month that you won't miss so become a 23 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:48,450 plus member and treat yourself in these 24 00:00:52,490 --> 00:00:50,850 troubled times always action-packed and 25 00:01:30,980 --> 00:00:52,500 commercial for you which means you'll 26 00:01:33,109 --> 00:01:30,990 unfortunately never hear my voice hey 27 00:01:35,660 --> 00:01:33,119 there and hello higher side chatters 28 00:01:37,940 --> 00:01:35,670 just another pre-show announcement from 29 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:37,950 your humble host today to say that this 30 00:01:43,730 --> 00:01:40,650 show is only an hour and is coming out 31 00:01:45,950 --> 00:01:43,740 as a plus bonus show for now but it's 32 00:01:47,990 --> 00:01:45,960 probably just going to be an early 33 00:01:50,870 --> 00:01:48,000 release for plus people because I do 34 00:01:53,149 --> 00:01:50,880 want to put this out for everyone when 35 00:01:55,370 --> 00:01:53,159 we sat down to record this I had planned 36 00:01:57,350 --> 00:01:55,380 for a two-hour show so it kind of put me 37 00:02:00,170 --> 00:01:57,360 behind schedule in terms of my 38 00:02:02,539 --> 00:02:00,180 obligations to the audience but 39 00:02:04,730 --> 00:02:02,549 sometimes that's just how it goes I'm 40 00:02:07,459 --> 00:02:04,740 lucky enough to be completely flexible 41 00:02:10,580 --> 00:02:07,469 and I'm really glad we were able to do 42 00:02:12,229 --> 00:02:10,590 it i bugged dr. mill hem for a while to 43 00:02:14,220 --> 00:02:12,239 get him to agree because he's very 44 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:14,230 serious about this 45 00:02:19,710 --> 00:02:16,450 and he's been collecting data and 46 00:02:21,330 --> 00:02:19,720 sounding the alarm for decades and for 47 00:02:24,180 --> 00:02:21,340 someone who has made this their life's 48 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:24,190 mission and has proved their point over 49 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:25,530 and over again 50 00:02:30,509 --> 00:02:27,970 sometimes they're hesitant to appear on 51 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:30,519 a show that calls itself a conspiracy 52 00:02:36,930 --> 00:02:33,610 show and uses some of the logos and 53 00:02:39,420 --> 00:02:36,940 imagery that we use so I had to really 54 00:02:42,479 --> 00:02:39,430 make the case that THC is a serious 55 00:02:43,650 --> 00:02:42,489 place and I was really happy when he 56 00:02:46,559 --> 00:02:43,660 eventually agreed 57 00:02:49,530 --> 00:02:46,569 dr. mill hem is not a young man anymore 58 00:02:51,210 --> 00:02:49,540 and even suffered a stroke last year 59 00:02:54,180 --> 00:02:51,220 unfortunately that I learned about 60 00:02:56,910 --> 00:02:54,190 during the show so I understand the idea 61 00:02:59,670 --> 00:02:56,920 of two hours just being way too much of 62 00:03:01,470 --> 00:02:59,680 a commitment and it's clear that he's 63 00:03:03,210 --> 00:03:01,480 been committed to this work because he's 64 00:03:05,910 --> 00:03:03,220 still trying to get the word out despite 65 00:03:08,580 --> 00:03:05,920 all of this and that said I hope you 66 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:08,590 enjoy it and take to heart some of these 67 00:03:13,890 --> 00:03:11,290 warnings about a realm of health dangers 68 00:03:16,949 --> 00:03:13,900 and corporate corruption that is not 69 00:03:19,710 --> 00:03:16,959 talked about nearly enough so let's get 70 00:03:22,449 --> 00:03:19,720 into it with dr. Sam know him on the 71 00:03:30,420 --> 00:03:26,899 the market to little sparking just about 72 00:03:34,300 --> 00:03:32,339 information about the secret 73 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:34,310 manipulation and the wine assist 74 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:36,010 aficionados he can find 75 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:37,690 [Music] 76 00:03:42,660 --> 00:03:40,570 man care normally thought we get dessert 77 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:42,670 so we can see the world with a brand new 78 00:03:57,970 --> 00:03:55,809 all right higher side Cheddar's how we 79 00:03:59,890 --> 00:03:57,980 doing out there from sunny San Diego I'm 80 00:04:01,390 --> 00:03:59,900 Greg Carl wood and we know that our 81 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:01,400 Western ways are still awash with 82 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:03,650 harmful chemicals and unhealthy habits 83 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:05,450 that it can be hard to properly pin down 84 00:04:09,340 --> 00:04:06,770 exactly what's what 85 00:04:11,380 --> 00:04:09,350 but the purity and integrity of our food 86 00:04:13,510 --> 00:04:11,390 water and medicine are all in poor shape 87 00:04:16,210 --> 00:04:13,520 and don't seem to be trending in our 88 00:04:18,430 --> 00:04:16,220 direction any time soon and even with 89 00:04:20,949 --> 00:04:18,440 the many conversations we've had about 90 00:04:22,990 --> 00:04:20,959 all these areas of concern it seems we 91 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:23,000 missed a major component of the sickness 92 00:04:27,430 --> 00:04:25,250 soup that is our modern society which 93 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:27,440 has only recently hit my radar through 94 00:04:32,469 --> 00:04:28,970 the work of today's highly credentialed 95 00:04:34,420 --> 00:04:32,479 guest dr. Sam mill heme dr. mill heme is 96 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:34,430 a physician an epidemiologist 97 00:04:39,100 --> 00:04:37,010 specializing in Public Health with more 98 00:04:41,170 --> 00:04:39,110 than a hundred scientific publications 99 00:04:44,050 --> 00:04:41,180 and several awards for his work he 100 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:44,060 really is a pioneer in understanding the 101 00:04:48,550 --> 00:04:46,130 relationship between electricity and 102 00:04:50,650 --> 00:04:48,560 human health and he's well known as 103 00:04:52,710 --> 00:04:50,660 being the first scientist to raise the 104 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:52,720 alarm on the frightening link between 105 00:04:58,659 --> 00:04:55,090 occupational exposure to electromagnetic 106 00:05:00,909 --> 00:04:58,669 fields and human disease well despite 107 00:05:02,740 --> 00:05:00,919 our wildly unhealthy lifestyles and the 108 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:02,750 many factors we focus on with other 109 00:05:06,730 --> 00:05:05,090 guests it's dr. mill hams contention 110 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:06,740 that it's really our constant exposure 111 00:05:10,810 --> 00:05:08,930 to electricity and the shady practices 112 00:05:13,180 --> 00:05:10,820 of the corporations involved that's 113 00:05:15,450 --> 00:05:13,190 actually killing us he breaks it all 114 00:05:17,890 --> 00:05:15,460 down in his great book dirty electricity 115 00:05:20,110 --> 00:05:17,900 electrification and the diseases of 116 00:05:22,210 --> 00:05:20,120 civilization and I'm really excited to 117 00:05:24,130 --> 00:05:22,220 have him here to talk about it a public 118 00:05:26,409 --> 00:05:24,140 health hero and true champion of the 119 00:05:30,070 --> 00:05:26,419 people dr. Mel hem welcome to the higher 120 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:30,080 side we're quite up here well I'm really 121 00:05:34,029 --> 00:05:31,610 psyched to be doing this thanks so much 122 00:05:35,500 --> 00:05:34,039 for your time I know a lot of this has 123 00:05:37,690 --> 00:05:35,510 been your life's work and it definitely 124 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:37,700 should be highlighted and appreciated 125 00:05:41,650 --> 00:05:40,130 we've done several previous episodes 126 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:41,660 with guests who have a lot of concerns 127 00:05:46,840 --> 00:05:44,210 over cellphones Wi-Fi and that latest 128 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:46,850 buzzword 5g but you've been showing the 129 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:49,130 data that proves we have had a problem 130 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:52,130 for a long time long before anyone knew 131 00:05:56,350 --> 00:05:54,050 these latest terms and to kick this off 132 00:05:58,810 --> 00:05:56,360 with a quote from the book you say when 133 00:05:59,920 --> 00:05:58,820 Thomas Edison began wiring New York City 134 00:06:03,279 --> 00:05:59,930 with a direct current distribution 135 00:06:05,050 --> 00:06:03,289 system in the 1880s he gave mankind the 136 00:06:07,540 --> 00:06:05,060 magic of electric light 137 00:06:09,940 --> 00:06:07,550 heat and power in the process though he 138 00:06:12,970 --> 00:06:09,950 inadvertently opened a Pandora's box of 139 00:06:15,129 --> 00:06:12,980 unimaginable illness and death well 140 00:06:17,170 --> 00:06:15,139 obviously that's quite a statement but 141 00:06:20,379 --> 00:06:17,180 the point there is that this is not a 142 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:20,389 new problem is it no it goes back to 143 00:06:24,430 --> 00:06:22,610 Thomas Edison they're the guys who will 144 00:06:26,770 --> 00:06:24,440 generate in the stuff at the Pearl 145 00:06:28,300 --> 00:06:26,780 Street Station kinda slick but that's 146 00:06:30,270 --> 00:06:28,310 all in the bar people could read the 147 00:06:33,280 --> 00:06:30,280 book and read about the old stuff and 148 00:06:35,590 --> 00:06:33,290 you know the other thing is that open 149 00:06:37,510 --> 00:06:35,600 floor know there's a couple populations 150 00:06:39,930 --> 00:06:37,520 in the world that have very low 151 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:39,940 exposures to this stuff the Amos 152 00:06:45,430 --> 00:06:43,250 Mennonite sect the rule of North and 153 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:45,440 South America if you look at them 154 00:06:50,260 --> 00:06:47,690 they're they're repulsive healthier we 155 00:06:54,280 --> 00:06:50,270 are unfortunately they don't have cancer 156 00:06:58,330 --> 00:06:54,290 their bones are stronger and I want to 157 00:06:59,800 --> 00:06:58,340 get out of my shop it is interested in 158 00:07:01,600 --> 00:06:59,810 worth mentioning because you talk about 159 00:07:03,610 --> 00:07:01,610 how difficult it can be to find a 160 00:07:06,310 --> 00:07:03,620 control group and that would definitely 161 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:06,320 be one and when I was younger I 162 00:07:10,650 --> 00:07:08,570 definitely kind of laughed at the Amish 163 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:10,660 for saying things like electricity were 164 00:07:15,310 --> 00:07:13,850 demonic or evil or bad but they clearly 165 00:07:17,860 --> 00:07:15,320 are not good for us 166 00:07:20,830 --> 00:07:17,870 and so maybe we should pay a little more 167 00:07:23,230 --> 00:07:20,840 respect I was going to Hopkins for a 168 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:23,240 Master of Public Health dead people at 169 00:07:28,690 --> 00:07:26,210 work and then that's fifteen fifty five 170 00:07:32,380 --> 00:07:28,700 sixty years ago it was wrong long time 171 00:07:34,330 --> 00:07:32,390 ago her study name is Pennsylvania and 172 00:07:38,529 --> 00:07:34,340 they were stuck on the fact that they 173 00:07:40,779 --> 00:07:38,539 just didn't get diabetes and that's one 174 00:07:43,750 --> 00:07:40,789 of the diseases that's really a hallmark 175 00:07:45,310 --> 00:07:43,760 of EMS exposure mmm in fact when we 176 00:07:47,650 --> 00:07:45,320 clean up houses 177 00:07:50,670 --> 00:07:47,660 we're diabetics live we have to warn 178 00:07:53,469 --> 00:07:50,680 them that I'll see if there's like one 179 00:07:55,330 --> 00:07:53,479 themselves insulin every day that the 180 00:07:58,750 --> 00:07:55,340 need for it's going to change ginger a 181 00:08:01,330 --> 00:07:58,760 lot we warned him about it it always 182 00:08:03,279 --> 00:08:01,340 happens yeah and we're gonna get into 183 00:08:05,529 --> 00:08:03,289 that too but that's one of those mind 184 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:05,539 blowers to me that even diabetes is 185 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:08,210 affected by electrical exposure because 186 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:10,370 that's something so synonymous with diet 187 00:08:13,210 --> 00:08:12,050 because we always think about the blood 188 00:08:16,060 --> 00:08:13,220 sugar and what you're putting in your 189 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:16,070 body but no that's not true right no 190 00:08:21,010 --> 00:08:18,770 it's today EMF 191 00:08:23,170 --> 00:08:21,020 diet away look at all the dietary 192 00:08:27,010 --> 00:08:23,180 differences around the planet everybody 193 00:08:29,140 --> 00:08:27,020 suffers from EMF spiders their diet look 194 00:08:35,350 --> 00:08:29,150 at that hey miss D shoo fly pie and 195 00:08:37,180 --> 00:08:35,360 greasy stuff no order yes well while 196 00:08:38,019 --> 00:08:37,190 we're talking about other countries 197 00:08:39,909 --> 00:08:38,029 around the world 198 00:08:42,459 --> 00:08:39,919 I heard you mention that some countries 199 00:08:44,949 --> 00:08:42,469 have a delta system I'm curious what 200 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:44,959 that means how is their system different 201 00:08:49,829 --> 00:08:47,930 than our electrical grid North America 202 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:49,839 and South America we've got a grounded y 203 00:08:57,310 --> 00:08:54,050 system which means it and every 204 00:09:00,190 --> 00:08:57,320 transport well used to be four five ten 205 00:09:02,350 --> 00:09:00,200 grams per mile but now go out look at 206 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:02,360 the pole method transformers look at the 207 00:09:07,030 --> 00:09:04,490 gray cylinders up on top each one of 208 00:09:08,740 --> 00:09:07,040 those has got a wire to earth now that 209 00:09:11,110 --> 00:09:08,750 was there initially when it was built 210 00:09:14,949 --> 00:09:11,120 for emergencies unlike lightnings 211 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:14,959 dragger wires if drop flagged over but 212 00:09:20,829 --> 00:09:18,050 now it's used to save the utilities from 213 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:20,839 putting more wires up on top only 214 00:09:24,940 --> 00:09:22,850 electricity that comes to your house has 215 00:09:27,430 --> 00:09:24,950 to go back to the substation goes you 216 00:09:30,639 --> 00:09:27,440 know back at the hippie era krisi which 217 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:30,649 is nearly as vitalife and unfortunately 218 00:09:34,660 --> 00:09:33,290 now it's at the ground is for fall of 219 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:34,670 all the returned currents and that's 220 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:36,250 another source of exposure that's 221 00:09:41,110 --> 00:09:38,930 increasing by the day and i think that 222 00:09:43,510 --> 00:09:41,120 they're in the reasons why animals that 223 00:09:46,690 --> 00:09:43,520 live in the ground like like what what 224 00:09:50,620 --> 00:09:46,700 please croaking like man mmm croup frogs 225 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:50,630 and here bibs they're just a half and 226 00:09:56,290 --> 00:09:52,850 pull other animals too busy feed on them 227 00:09:58,500 --> 00:09:56,300 but anyway now in Europe and other 228 00:10:01,150 --> 00:09:58,510 places they've got a a grid where all 229 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:01,160 white Rosina goes to your house goes 230 00:10:09,310 --> 00:10:06,410 back on the wires like our shirt mm-hmm 231 00:10:10,900 --> 00:10:09,320 right and that was something I was going 232 00:10:12,790 --> 00:10:10,910 to get into because when we talked about 233 00:10:14,079 --> 00:10:12,800 getting this interview set up I learned 234 00:10:16,420 --> 00:10:14,089 you're not a big fan of that term 235 00:10:18,190 --> 00:10:16,430 conspiracy and I understand that but 236 00:10:19,900 --> 00:10:18,200 these companies have to know what's 237 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:19,910 going on and they clearly would rather 238 00:10:25,449 --> 00:10:22,610 cover it up and fix it and maybe calling 239 00:10:28,060 --> 00:10:25,459 it an attack is going too far but you do 240 00:10:30,250 --> 00:10:28,070 say in the last 20 years over 70% of the 241 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:30,260 electricity we use runs back to the 242 00:10:36,100 --> 00:10:32,450 station through the ground rather than 243 00:10:38,020 --> 00:10:36,110 neutral transmission lines so like most 244 00:10:40,210 --> 00:10:38,030 corporations they're using the earth as 245 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:40,220 a general dumping ground for their 246 00:10:45,370 --> 00:10:43,370 garbage but talk to us about how these 247 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:45,380 utility companies are making things 248 00:10:50,680 --> 00:10:47,810 worse than they even have to be well you 249 00:10:52,390 --> 00:10:50,690 know every States got a rule and says 250 00:10:55,180 --> 00:10:52,400 they can't do that but they do it I mean 251 00:10:57,850 --> 00:10:55,190 it says yeah I read to California when I 252 00:11:01,060 --> 00:10:57,860 live down there and Wimmers now I'm a 253 00:11:03,310 --> 00:11:01,070 Washington state year-round but it says 254 00:11:05,110 --> 00:11:03,320 clearly you can only use that for 255 00:11:07,500 --> 00:11:05,120 emergencies and they use it routinely 256 00:11:10,330 --> 00:11:07,510 and as I've measured the ground 257 00:11:12,540 --> 00:11:10,340 everywhere like I used to hike up on the 258 00:11:16,180 --> 00:11:12,550 Cascade crest trail down here California 259 00:11:18,700 --> 00:11:16,190 you find really strong fields and 260 00:11:20,620 --> 00:11:18,710 currents in the earth another one of the 261 00:11:23,500 --> 00:11:20,630 ways it's showing up is freshwater 262 00:11:24,730 --> 00:11:23,510 electrocutions down snasser goin up and 263 00:11:26,860 --> 00:11:24,740 Clank see we had one right here in the 264 00:11:29,410 --> 00:11:26,870 state last year a couple weeks floating 265 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:29,420 down a river a girl's heart stopped 266 00:11:34,870 --> 00:11:33,170 Kehaar they've got what kinds of funny 267 00:11:39,310 --> 00:11:34,880 reasons why it happened but it happened 268 00:11:40,500 --> 00:11:39,320 because the rivers elect a high electric 269 00:11:44,620 --> 00:11:40,510 fields and in the water 270 00:11:47,140 --> 00:11:44,630 hmm that's the ground current occasion I 271 00:11:48,550 --> 00:11:47,150 fishing I used to fish a lot I would net 272 00:11:49,990 --> 00:11:48,560 there one of the islands of my teacher 273 00:11:53,170 --> 00:11:50,000 sent and it happened 274 00:11:56,050 --> 00:11:53,180 squawks it's a tribal island actually 275 00:11:57,420 --> 00:11:56,060 said it was a prison for four years now 276 00:12:01,870 --> 00:11:57,430 nobody lives there 277 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:01,880 the we can go on it and a tribal guy cut 278 00:12:06,250 --> 00:12:04,370 me out and I measured the recurrence on 279 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:06,260 the island I had to get there Lee they 280 00:12:10,990 --> 00:12:07,970 run underneath they went on the water 281 00:12:12,850 --> 00:12:11,000 and they capture on the land and down 282 00:12:15,550 --> 00:12:12,860 the other side to go back to the 283 00:12:17,260 --> 00:12:15,560 substation came from so there's no place 284 00:12:20,290 --> 00:12:17,270 in North America that I measured I 285 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:20,300 measured Alaska Canada and the west 286 00:12:25,810 --> 00:12:23,210 coast and had other people measurement 287 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:25,820 measurements back east and if to get 288 00:12:30,790 --> 00:12:27,530 grounded why system they got occur in 289 00:12:33,220 --> 00:12:30,800 the ground the trip in the year mmm and 290 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:33,230 he kept in warehouses like when I lived 291 00:12:38,650 --> 00:12:35,810 in California lifted a four-plex and 292 00:12:40,420 --> 00:12:38,660 Indio and my dog good said not bad 293 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:40,430 they're teeth he liked to sleep on the 294 00:12:46,220 --> 00:12:42,530 tile floor in the bathroom well turns 295 00:12:48,860 --> 00:12:46,230 out that that was hot as electric fields 296 00:12:51,710 --> 00:12:48,870 he'll turn it and Fanta is coming into 297 00:12:53,750 --> 00:12:51,720 the house from the concrete slab and was 298 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:53,760 getting into the slab from each end of 299 00:12:58,970 --> 00:12:56,610 the building at a gas supply the gas 300 00:13:01,250 --> 00:12:58,980 meter so hooked when we cook to the gas 301 00:13:03,260 --> 00:13:01,260 meter to the ground I found a whole 302 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:03,270 bunch of odd Krissi a certainty there I 303 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:04,770 mean was it going to be tonight like 304 00:13:11,330 --> 00:13:08,370 Perseid just before they were making 305 00:13:14,270 --> 00:13:11,340 them wi-fi's like most part leadership 306 00:13:16,100 --> 00:13:14,280 and those are worse for us right oh god 307 00:13:18,260 --> 00:13:16,110 that's where I have a smart meter on my 308 00:13:19,190 --> 00:13:18,270 house for a couple years when they put 309 00:13:22,670 --> 00:13:19,200 it on I was an arrow 310 00:13:24,110 --> 00:13:22,680 Hey look I don't want that thing well he 311 00:13:26,270 --> 00:13:24,120 said well you either have that it we 312 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:26,280 shut the electricity off so he could it 313 00:13:31,700 --> 00:13:29,130 do so I had it on for a while tried 314 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:31,710 shielded it I could be held that the 315 00:13:37,970 --> 00:13:34,490 came with love Washington's state said 316 00:13:39,650 --> 00:13:37,980 you can opt out so I did I may kill them 317 00:13:41,810 --> 00:13:39,660 well c'mon crew Cindy but I don't have 318 00:13:45,050 --> 00:13:41,820 that damn smart meter keep me up all 319 00:13:46,730 --> 00:13:45,060 night hear that my bedroom wall now my 320 00:13:49,460 --> 00:13:46,740 house has no clue so second sleep 321 00:13:51,530 --> 00:13:49,470 mmm-hmm so anyway forgetting this 322 00:13:55,130 --> 00:13:51,540 through the wires and to the wiring 323 00:13:57,170 --> 00:13:55,140 through the earth California the floor 324 00:13:59,420 --> 00:13:57,180 of the bathroom and any metal that was 325 00:14:02,270 --> 00:13:59,430 attached to the floor like a door jams 326 00:14:04,460 --> 00:14:02,280 and the windows were hot and you catch 327 00:14:06,770 --> 00:14:04,470 something you get hurt in her body 328 00:14:08,900 --> 00:14:06,780 that's another thing you disagree with 329 00:14:12,530 --> 00:14:08,910 the first letter shown how to measure 330 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:12,540 the current not approximated from there 331 00:14:17,330 --> 00:14:15,330 volts times amps equals a power if you 332 00:14:20,270 --> 00:14:17,340 get the power and voltage you can figure 333 00:14:21,830 --> 00:14:20,280 the amperage just by division but we can 334 00:14:25,130 --> 00:14:21,840 actually measure it now to measure it 335 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:25,140 with a meter and we found out that I put 336 00:14:32,710 --> 00:14:28,290 my fashion icon this is the ordinary six 337 00:14:38,590 --> 00:14:35,290 have you heard my body we went around 338 00:14:40,210 --> 00:14:38,600 town opposition if it's got high ceiling 339 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:40,220 it's fine but it see how it's under sea 340 00:14:46,900 --> 00:14:43,370 tension your comfy place or did they 341 00:14:50,110 --> 00:14:46,910 come over said if natural aside LEDs are 342 00:14:53,079 --> 00:14:50,120 bad and full of a curlicue come back for 343 00:14:56,429 --> 00:14:53,089 us is your bad so you know we'd have a 344 00:14:59,650 --> 00:14:56,439 lot of stuff we got our void you know 345 00:15:02,699 --> 00:14:59,660 and Wi-Fi is one thing we got to avoid 346 00:15:08,170 --> 00:15:02,709 gonna learn LEDs of fluorescent lights 347 00:15:10,509 --> 00:15:08,180 etc alright ask questions well you 348 00:15:14,139 --> 00:15:10,519 mentioned that the utility companies are 349 00:15:15,879 --> 00:15:14,149 supposed to have that extra wire that 350 00:15:17,980 --> 00:15:15,889 runs everything back and they just 351 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:17,990 aren't it's more expensive to run that 352 00:15:23,230 --> 00:15:19,610 wire so they're dumping it in the ground 353 00:15:25,929 --> 00:15:23,240 well what it does is I work with stats 354 00:15:26,650 --> 00:15:25,939 are up in Wisconsin Dave stutzer he does 355 00:15:29,350 --> 00:15:26,660 this every day 356 00:15:31,809 --> 00:15:29,360 and what's happened there's the grad 357 00:15:34,949 --> 00:15:31,819 Kirk messes up the cows they don't know 358 00:15:37,929 --> 00:15:34,959 any other animals on the ground get sick 359 00:15:40,030 --> 00:15:37,939 they've had some cases where they just 360 00:15:42,730 --> 00:15:40,040 had to put that line up for return 361 00:15:44,170 --> 00:15:42,740 currents and cows get better so you know 362 00:15:44,889 --> 00:15:44,180 if you make a cow's better you can make 363 00:15:47,319 --> 00:15:44,899 people better 364 00:15:49,569 --> 00:15:47,329 mm-hm and I went out and measured what 365 00:15:52,509 --> 00:15:49,579 amis were against it you know when they 366 00:15:54,579 --> 00:15:52,519 buy a house they rip the wires out they 367 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:54,589 sell silver copper don't have any 368 00:15:59,290 --> 00:15:57,290 electricity in their barns that they 369 00:16:02,019 --> 00:15:59,300 don't get asthma they don't get a lot of 370 00:16:04,329 --> 00:16:02,029 stuff but unfortunately I want a little 371 00:16:06,759 --> 00:16:04,339 bit electricity we don't have that dirty 372 00:16:10,059 --> 00:16:06,769 electricity you can have no off-grid 373 00:16:13,509 --> 00:16:10,069 solar and solar and wind or another 374 00:16:15,730 --> 00:16:13,519 problems with a modern modern way but if 375 00:16:19,299 --> 00:16:15,740 the tied to the grid they have to invert 376 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:19,309 the tuner in DC and have the Jenner 377 00:16:24,100 --> 00:16:22,610 they can AC and the inverters put 378 00:16:27,150 --> 00:16:24,110 through the electricity into the house 379 00:16:31,569 --> 00:16:27,160 wiring into the wearing of the system 380 00:16:33,100 --> 00:16:31,579 that's bad mmm-hmm yeah and I did gloss 381 00:16:35,290 --> 00:16:33,110 over some of your credentials but you 382 00:16:36,970 --> 00:16:35,300 have worked for the Washington State and 383 00:16:38,650 --> 00:16:36,980 New York State Department's of Public 384 00:16:40,569 --> 00:16:38,660 Health you mentioned earlier they're 385 00:16:43,059 --> 00:16:40,579 supposed to be doing this one way and 386 00:16:45,009 --> 00:16:43,069 they're not doing it well what are the 387 00:16:46,690 --> 00:16:45,019 departments of Public Health saying 388 00:16:48,310 --> 00:16:46,700 about this are they just ignorant 389 00:16:49,540 --> 00:16:48,320 to it are they overlooking it I mean 390 00:16:50,500 --> 00:16:49,550 these are the watchdog's that are 391 00:16:53,380 --> 00:16:50,510 supposed to hold these people 392 00:16:55,750 --> 00:16:53,390 accountable yeah like I think it paid 393 00:16:58,330 --> 00:16:55,760 off by these hoodies when I was working 394 00:17:01,450 --> 00:16:58,340 in Wisconsin an epidemic in in the 395 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:01,460 schools - lets her clear a couple 396 00:17:08,380 --> 00:17:05,810 epidemics by putting filters in and then 397 00:17:11,350 --> 00:17:08,390 cured the problem but just one one 398 00:17:12,100 --> 00:17:11,360 Catholic school we figured they had a 399 00:17:14,830 --> 00:17:12,110 hell of a problem 400 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:14,840 cancer the kids some of the teachers and 401 00:17:20,380 --> 00:17:17,930 they just tossed us out with the public 402 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:20,390 health people who have to feel good and 403 00:17:24,390 --> 00:17:22,730 we really jumped into this thing but 404 00:17:26,650 --> 00:17:24,400 maybe we could better to find dirty 405 00:17:28,510 --> 00:17:26,660 electricity is it always coming from the 406 00:17:30,610 --> 00:17:28,520 ground is it sometimes coming from the 407 00:17:33,550 --> 00:17:30,620 wires and the devices has it hidden us 408 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:33,560 know it moist mr. Cunningham other stuff 409 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:35,330 in your house will you put your 410 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:38,450 microwave over them it puts our eggs out 411 00:17:43,270 --> 00:17:41,570 and you have LEDs or any other murderers 412 00:17:44,860 --> 00:17:43,280 in your house that's put dirty 413 00:17:46,930 --> 00:17:44,870 electricity in there you're in a 414 00:17:48,970 --> 00:17:46,940 neighborhood that's got solar you've got 415 00:17:51,100 --> 00:17:48,980 through the electricity because it runs 416 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:51,110 into the wires and gets to your house 417 00:17:56,530 --> 00:17:53,810 from your neighbors the perfect place to 418 00:17:59,320 --> 00:17:56,540 live with the by yourself out on 15 419 00:18:01,420 --> 00:17:59,330 acres nothing around your eyes full of 420 00:18:03,370 --> 00:18:01,430 stuff in the ground because you know 421 00:18:06,430 --> 00:18:03,380 like up on the Cascade crest tree lives 422 00:18:09,580 --> 00:18:06,440 20 miles from anywhere I could visit the 423 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:09,590 stuff in the ground all the time hmm and 424 00:18:12,580 --> 00:18:11,450 let's also break down which conditions 425 00:18:14,430 --> 00:18:12,590 we're talking about this dirty 426 00:18:16,390 --> 00:18:14,440 electricity might be responsible for 427 00:18:18,910 --> 00:18:16,400 leukemia lymphoma 428 00:18:20,710 --> 00:18:18,920 various cancers even obesity and 429 00:18:22,540 --> 00:18:20,720 diabetes which are the really weird ones 430 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:22,550 to understand but what all falls under 431 00:18:28,330 --> 00:18:24,890 this umbrella of health conditions and 432 00:18:30,250 --> 00:18:28,340 disease caused by dirty electricity when 433 00:18:33,250 --> 00:18:30,260 I first started I started with leukemia 434 00:18:35,140 --> 00:18:33,260 and that's obviously related to it but 435 00:18:37,570 --> 00:18:35,150 lower cancer suppressant cancer female 436 00:18:39,120 --> 00:18:37,580 breast cancer is a big one and it's 437 00:18:42,130 --> 00:18:39,130 their heart diseases 438 00:18:45,940 --> 00:18:42,140 it's everything except accidents car 439 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:45,950 accidents look at liquefied versus 440 00:18:51,010 --> 00:18:48,050 unoccupied populations in this country 441 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:51,020 the book was basically result of the 442 00:18:57,100 --> 00:18:54,170 study I did way back one and I just used 443 00:18:59,740 --> 00:18:57,110 death records and I used to buy 444 00:19:00,440 --> 00:18:59,750 statement at didn't nationally and it 445 00:19:02,180 --> 00:19:00,450 showed that if 446 00:19:04,130 --> 00:19:02,190 lived in a place that well what happened 447 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:04,140 is electricity they have to run worth 448 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:05,850 your ass from the generating stations 449 00:19:10,570 --> 00:19:07,410 cities got it right away 450 00:19:14,270 --> 00:19:10,580 they got it say ten years of medicine 451 00:19:19,250 --> 00:19:14,280 late 18-hundreds but the less forms 452 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:19,260 didn't get electrified us until 1955 so 453 00:19:23,360 --> 00:19:21,570 you had half a century we had half the 454 00:19:25,820 --> 00:19:23,370 country with electricity half without it 455 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:25,830 and I just looked at the difference in 456 00:19:32,330 --> 00:19:29,090 mortality rates they're just incredible 457 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:32,340 places and electrification add a lot 458 00:19:36,410 --> 00:19:34,170 more of everything except why do I 459 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:36,420 difference suicides a big one that's 460 00:19:45,500 --> 00:19:43,340 suicide 461 00:19:48,050 --> 00:19:45,510 no that's because of the stress response 462 00:19:51,610 --> 00:19:48,060 I guess that this is causing who knows 463 00:19:55,870 --> 00:19:51,620 who knows with interstate changes here 464 00:20:00,680 --> 00:19:55,880 your ionic levels in your blood calcium 465 00:20:02,780 --> 00:20:00,690 ions commanded the tracer you know we we 466 00:20:05,690 --> 00:20:02,790 evolved with electricity on the planet 467 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:05,700 Schumann resonances and lightning that's 468 00:20:12,740 --> 00:20:09,690 bad and the Earth's fields then all of a 469 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:12,750 sudden editor stuffin and this 5g is 470 00:20:16,850 --> 00:20:14,850 going to be bad because it's putting a 471 00:20:19,430 --> 00:20:16,860 lot more transmitters closer to a lot 472 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:19,440 more people i don't care we could put 473 00:20:24,650 --> 00:20:22,890 out so bad mmm-hmm this is kind of a 474 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:24,660 weird one but i wanted to ask you in 475 00:20:29,390 --> 00:20:26,850 terms of the history about that whole 476 00:20:31,820 --> 00:20:29,400 tesla verse edison saga i think a lot of 477 00:20:33,830 --> 00:20:31,830 folks seem to think of tesla as a 478 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:33,840 futurist who wanted to help humanity and 479 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:35,610 edison as the savvy businessman who 480 00:20:39,500 --> 00:20:37,050 wanted to commercialize the whole thing 481 00:20:42,050 --> 00:20:39,510 but there is that alternating current 482 00:20:44,030 --> 00:20:42,060 verse direct current debate and i'm not 483 00:20:46,070 --> 00:20:44,040 sure if it matters anymore but is one 484 00:20:49,790 --> 00:20:46,080 less harmful health-wise than the other 485 00:20:52,130 --> 00:20:49,800 oh yeah DC is a whole lot healthier for 486 00:20:53,900 --> 00:20:52,140 either if you could have it because it 487 00:20:58,370 --> 00:20:53,910 doesn't carry that dirty electricity and 488 00:20:59,390 --> 00:20:58,380 DC is what edison backed no Addison what 489 00:21:03,440 --> 00:20:59,400 was a she man 490 00:21:07,250 --> 00:21:03,450 oh hey generate a seat at the grocery 491 00:21:08,810 --> 00:21:07,260 substations sure yeah then it's bad for 492 00:21:10,940 --> 00:21:08,820 the pocketbook and for the body 493 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:10,950 yeah well it's bad for everything 494 00:21:15,770 --> 00:21:14,010 unfortunately I know we could with 495 00:21:18,650 --> 00:21:15,780 now if we can put people on the moon we 496 00:21:20,360 --> 00:21:18,660 can get clean electricity well we can go 497 00:21:22,190 --> 00:21:20,370 to a delta type grid like they have in 498 00:21:23,750 --> 00:21:22,200 Europe but you know they've got sober 499 00:21:26,530 --> 00:21:23,760 they got wind over there so I think our 500 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:26,540 problems those technologies are dirty 501 00:21:30,799 --> 00:21:29,490 their vision down the California has 502 00:21:34,100 --> 00:21:30,809 spent a lot of time measuring the wind 503 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:34,110 farms done in San Diego and I've been 504 00:21:39,409 --> 00:21:35,970 missing a home on a solar places they're 505 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:39,419 all bad nothing good about yes I 506 00:21:44,710 --> 00:21:41,850 actually think you did a study of a 507 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:44,720 tribe that was living near a wind 508 00:21:50,419 --> 00:21:48,210 turbine field and they're a great case 509 00:21:54,260 --> 00:21:50,429 study as to the damage that can be done 510 00:21:57,350 --> 00:21:54,270 right yeah enough effect along the way 511 00:22:01,159 --> 00:21:57,360 if it does affect your homes burning or 512 00:22:04,220 --> 00:22:01,169 Daniel somewhere along with them like 20 513 00:22:07,370 --> 00:22:04,230 windmills and they offered spectacular 514 00:22:11,169 --> 00:22:07,380 blades flatten cross fire coming out of 515 00:22:15,260 --> 00:22:11,179 that nature to put no one to it again 516 00:22:17,539 --> 00:22:15,270 hmm so I was trying to look at other 517 00:22:19,610 --> 00:22:17,549 sources to kind of educate myself on 518 00:22:22,669 --> 00:22:19,620 this stuff because it is fairly complex 519 00:22:25,100 --> 00:22:22,679 and when I was reading said that the 520 00:22:27,049 --> 00:22:25,110 towers operate on direct current but 521 00:22:29,270 --> 00:22:27,059 it's the electrical current supplied to 522 00:22:30,919 --> 00:22:29,280 the tower that is alternating current 523 00:22:33,500 --> 00:22:30,929 and they're therefore they need to have 524 00:22:36,380 --> 00:22:33,510 an inverter and the inverter is a big 525 00:22:38,870 --> 00:22:36,390 part of the problem why this mismatching 526 00:22:41,900 --> 00:22:38,880 of the two different systems why can't 527 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:41,910 we just stick to one he's addicted easy 528 00:22:47,390 --> 00:22:44,850 as it was you stick to I mean all radios 529 00:22:49,610 --> 00:22:47,400 run on DC it on except if you plug them 530 00:22:52,159 --> 00:22:49,620 in the wall they've got a river to 531 00:22:52,970 --> 00:22:52,169 change they easy to DC that hasn't 532 00:22:56,870 --> 00:22:52,980 overworks 533 00:22:59,510 --> 00:22:56,880 solar cells make the recurrent and if 534 00:23:01,250 --> 00:22:59,520 you want to electrify your AC house you 535 00:23:04,580 --> 00:23:01,260 have to put it through a device that 536 00:23:07,610 --> 00:23:04,590 changes the AC to DC it's like they use 537 00:23:09,890 --> 00:23:07,620 AC DC for transmission and DC 538 00:23:11,780 --> 00:23:09,900 transmissions bed early they take the 539 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:11,790 big five there's a big DC transmission 540 00:23:17,419 --> 00:23:14,610 line that runs down the coast but the 541 00:23:20,750 --> 00:23:17,429 devices they have at each end the AC DC 542 00:23:23,120 --> 00:23:20,760 transmission or vice versa or bad I mean 543 00:23:26,750 --> 00:23:23,130 they put crap in the fly that's why you 544 00:23:29,630 --> 00:23:26,760 get these wires along power lines 545 00:23:33,020 --> 00:23:29,640 pipes they brand everything gotten the 546 00:23:35,900 --> 00:23:33,030 same quarterly I buy our lines and pipe 547 00:23:39,799 --> 00:23:35,910 the first the current that makes them 548 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:39,809 weak and they blow yeah bunch of people 549 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:42,330 killed on a pipeline blew and line up 550 00:23:47,690 --> 00:23:44,090 here I'm sure that's what happened 551 00:23:50,060 --> 00:23:47,700 hmm yeah we really have been kind of 552 00:23:52,700 --> 00:23:50,070 tiptoeing around that paper you have the 553 00:23:56,210 --> 00:23:52,710 dark side of clean energy or the dark 554 00:23:58,490 --> 00:23:56,220 side of green energy and so I do know 555 00:24:00,080 --> 00:23:58,500 people who have recently put solar 556 00:24:02,870 --> 00:24:00,090 panels on their house thinking they're 557 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:02,880 doing the right thing can they fix that 558 00:24:06,350 --> 00:24:04,410 I mean they just made a twenty thousand 559 00:24:09,740 --> 00:24:06,360 dollar investment how can they fix it so 560 00:24:13,580 --> 00:24:09,750 they're not cooking themselves well it's 561 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:13,590 over just go work come on shut it off we 562 00:24:18,049 --> 00:24:15,330 go to sleep hmm 563 00:24:19,970 --> 00:24:18,059 what you can do here their house you get 564 00:24:23,270 --> 00:24:19,980 that exposed so if you work from home 565 00:24:25,220 --> 00:24:23,280 you're just done you're screwed ah 566 00:24:27,740 --> 00:24:25,230 there's nothing there's no kind of 567 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:27,750 tweaks that you can do to the system 568 00:24:35,570 --> 00:24:28,410 itself 569 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:35,580 oh no yourself nothing's going to help 570 00:24:39,950 --> 00:24:37,530 you you're working around their house 571 00:24:43,190 --> 00:24:39,960 and it's got solar during the day you're 572 00:24:46,850 --> 00:24:43,200 getting exposed to Wow well that's that 573 00:24:49,220 --> 00:24:46,860 here it is nothing they got rules to 574 00:25:00,049 --> 00:24:49,230 California all houses have to have 575 00:25:01,940 --> 00:25:00,059 silica certain yeah yeah dude well I do 576 00:25:04,549 --> 00:25:01,950 like that you've sort of focused your 577 00:25:06,500 --> 00:25:04,559 career on occupational hazard for one 578 00:25:08,419 --> 00:25:06,510 because I think a lot of companies put 579 00:25:10,010 --> 00:25:08,429 people in harmony either don't care or 580 00:25:11,780 --> 00:25:10,020 don't put the effort into really knowing 581 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:11,790 all the hazards involved but as you say 582 00:25:15,890 --> 00:25:13,530 in the book it also shows that a 583 00:25:17,990 --> 00:25:15,900 condition is situational and thus 584 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:18,000 preventable can you give the people an 585 00:25:22,730 --> 00:25:19,770 example or two about maybe big 586 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:22,740 occupational studies you did well I 587 00:25:29,470 --> 00:25:25,770 studied the paper workers plea as xxxii 588 00:25:32,870 --> 00:25:29,480 carpet crews in turn anyway us in Canada 589 00:25:34,820 --> 00:25:32,880 and now they've got their problems but 590 00:25:38,149 --> 00:25:34,830 people have studied you like co-workers 591 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:38,159 and they all show the same problems they 592 00:25:42,050 --> 00:25:39,090 get exposed to 593 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:42,060 seems ugly are anymore and it shows up 594 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:45,090 in their mortality morbidity matters the 595 00:25:49,730 --> 00:25:47,850 one study really helped stay candidly 596 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:49,740 they had a different meter they were 597 00:25:54,140 --> 00:25:52,170 measuring high-frequency stuff and that 598 00:25:56,570 --> 00:25:54,150 shared lung cancer I mean that's smoking 599 00:25:59,090 --> 00:25:56,580 cancer and people who had high frequency 600 00:26:00,740 --> 00:25:59,100 exposure and that's that's about the 601 00:26:04,100 --> 00:26:00,750 time I learned about that I learned 602 00:26:07,070 --> 00:26:04,110 about this stuff Spitzer Marta Grimm 603 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:07,080 we're doing the cows in Wisconsin I look 604 00:26:09,890 --> 00:26:07,770 with them 605 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:09,900 and that's what the dirty electricity is 606 00:26:16,850 --> 00:26:13,050 its high frequency stuff that shouldn't 607 00:26:19,850 --> 00:26:16,860 be there hmm 60 cycle is bad because not 608 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:19,860 as bad as the high frequency stuff like 609 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:22,050 to talk about the Moscow embassy being 610 00:26:26,780 --> 00:26:23,850 microwaved by the Russians they did book 611 00:26:29,270 --> 00:26:26,790 microwaves with it the walls real 3 foot 612 00:26:31,460 --> 00:26:29,280 concrete micros don't go through three 613 00:26:33,950 --> 00:26:31,470 feet of concrete he just really dirty 614 00:26:37,310 --> 00:26:33,960 electricity in for the wires nobody 615 00:26:40,310 --> 00:26:37,320 knows that I talked to a guy allocated 616 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:40,320 he's good rush it but attempt on the 617 00:26:44,690 --> 00:26:42,690 cube I think they've had a place where 618 00:26:48,890 --> 00:26:44,700 people get sick there's not mention 619 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:48,900 sequestration mmm-hmm yes the LaQuinta 620 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:50,970 middle school teacher situation the 621 00:26:55,310 --> 00:26:52,650 cancer cluster there that's one of your 622 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:55,320 big claims to fame isn't it yeah but 623 00:26:59,990 --> 00:26:57,450 unfortunately he's still getting exposed 624 00:27:03,260 --> 00:27:00,000 the school district the politicians down 625 00:27:07,490 --> 00:27:03,270 there didn't knuckle under just another 626 00:27:10,420 --> 00:27:07,500 school I worked at elementary school of 627 00:27:16,310 --> 00:27:14,090 anyways I wrote it they've got an even 628 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:16,320 worse problem teaches a lot breast 629 00:27:21,650 --> 00:27:16,890 cancer 630 00:27:25,820 --> 00:27:21,660 the kids were not so we fixed a crazy 631 00:27:28,310 --> 00:27:25,830 doesn't the kids filtering the room 632 00:27:31,509 --> 00:27:28,320 I went to a school board get you tonight 633 00:27:34,009 --> 00:27:31,519 hey clean the place up great for free 634 00:27:36,889 --> 00:27:34,019 right so as far as I know there's those 635 00:27:38,389 --> 00:27:36,899 forget exposed another real winner I had 636 00:27:40,909 --> 00:27:38,399 down there is that cleaned up you're 637 00:27:42,950 --> 00:27:40,919 this look into school was a wipe see a 638 00:27:46,519 --> 00:27:42,960 daycare center where that was really 639 00:27:49,609 --> 00:27:46,529 filthy as I clean that up you know or 640 00:27:52,159 --> 00:27:49,619 this was put him in back down on a visit 641 00:27:54,470 --> 00:27:52,169 my linen to check out the place is doing 642 00:27:56,810 --> 00:27:54,480 it kind of filters your god they take it 643 00:27:59,119 --> 00:27:56,820 up twice never sold until have done 644 00:28:02,090 --> 00:27:59,129 something and nobody would own up to 645 00:28:03,379 --> 00:28:02,100 what had happened or why so that the 646 00:28:05,690 --> 00:28:03,389 kids are getting exposed again and 647 00:28:11,330 --> 00:28:05,700 unfortunately hmm so I know you're gonna 648 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:11,340 watch it right it's just like everything 649 00:28:16,879 --> 00:28:15,090 is leaning towards maximizing the damage 650 00:28:19,700 --> 00:28:16,889 done by this stuff there's no filters 651 00:28:22,099 --> 00:28:19,710 there's no anything you know we get in 652 00:28:25,369 --> 00:28:22,109 this car you if you look to compare our 653 00:28:28,639 --> 00:28:25,379 house it's also due to places that have 654 00:28:30,109 --> 00:28:28,649 that Delta grid we're worse you know we 655 00:28:32,060 --> 00:28:30,119 spent a lot more money on the healthy 656 00:28:34,340 --> 00:28:32,070 and the results aren't as good and I 657 00:28:46,129 --> 00:28:34,350 think part of it is is due to electrical 658 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:46,139 exposure and unfortunately and another 659 00:28:54,159 --> 00:28:51,090 study you did was on aluminum plant 660 00:28:57,109 --> 00:28:54,169 workers at Kaiser aluminum and you say 661 00:28:59,570 --> 00:28:57,119 when you did that study management of 662 00:29:02,180 --> 00:28:59,580 Kaiser retained Sir Richard doll to 663 00:29:04,460 --> 00:29:02,190 neutralize my cancer findings after he 664 00:29:07,340 --> 00:29:04,470 died it was revealed that Monsanto paid 665 00:29:09,019 --> 00:29:07,350 him $1500 a day for many years yeah 666 00:29:11,180 --> 00:29:09,029 that's the sort of thing that doesn't 667 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:11,190 surprise me anymore it's a major factor 668 00:29:14,479 --> 00:29:12,690 in the suppression of this sort of data 669 00:29:17,389 --> 00:29:14,489 but how often have you run into 670 00:29:19,570 --> 00:29:17,399 situations like this Hey look at where 671 00:29:23,359 --> 00:29:19,580 it really happens is it crackers I mean 672 00:29:26,539 --> 00:29:23,369 why do we give Israel 23,000 bucks a 673 00:29:28,820 --> 00:29:26,549 family every year you know for free and 674 00:29:31,099 --> 00:29:28,830 because a pack you know pro-israeli 675 00:29:32,389 --> 00:29:31,109 Lobby which is I mean we're representing 676 00:29:34,730 --> 00:29:32,399 a foreign country they're not even 677 00:29:36,799 --> 00:29:34,740 licensed however all the other people 678 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:36,809 want to represent other countries are 679 00:29:43,369 --> 00:29:39,570 licensed they take entourage 680 00:29:45,409 --> 00:29:43,379 our congresspeople over there to Israel 681 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:45,419 put them in nice hotels of you it's 682 00:29:51,619 --> 00:29:48,450 tough you know hey lookit we're going to 683 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:51,629 have this problem until we get federal 684 00:29:57,710 --> 00:29:54,330 funding of Elections no more this 685 00:30:00,169 --> 00:29:57,720 giveaway stuff like we got pay for 686 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:00,179 prison to the prison people spent a 687 00:30:06,469 --> 00:30:02,970 couple million bucks in terms of bribes 688 00:30:08,690 --> 00:30:06,479 that's what they are as bribes and they 689 00:30:10,989 --> 00:30:08,700 got their way right why should check out 690 00:30:14,599 --> 00:30:10,999 that paper prison that's crazy 691 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:14,609 indeed agreed and yeah in terms of 692 00:30:19,669 --> 00:30:18,090 lobbying and ribéry you think General 693 00:30:22,099 --> 00:30:19,679 Electric doesn't have some money set 694 00:30:23,979 --> 00:30:22,109 aside for that kind of thing Hey look at 695 00:30:27,710 --> 00:30:23,989 they all do look at polling with these 696 00:30:30,769 --> 00:30:27,720 make replacement she's to the crashed on 697 00:30:34,310 --> 00:30:30,779 a kind of a software problem that just 698 00:30:37,820 --> 00:30:34,320 nonsense mmm-hmm and that he'd even 699 00:30:39,729 --> 00:30:37,830 wanna let the things fly they sold some 700 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:39,739 of those points if I fix on their 701 00:30:45,769 --> 00:30:42,210 company said the people who bought the 702 00:30:48,919 --> 00:30:45,779 place had to pay more money for what 703 00:30:53,180 --> 00:30:48,929 safety is you gotta buy it but anyway I 704 00:30:56,149 --> 00:30:53,190 hope it doesn't doesn't put they'll 705 00:30:59,560 --> 00:30:56,159 survive this is the slogan for a while 706 00:31:01,549 --> 00:30:59,570 but they all survived oh yeah these 707 00:31:03,739 --> 00:31:01,559 handful of companies that have been 708 00:31:06,019 --> 00:31:03,749 around longer than me maybe even longer 709 00:31:08,060 --> 00:31:06,029 than you they don't go anywhere they 710 00:31:10,430 --> 00:31:08,070 always weather every storm and offload 711 00:31:12,619 --> 00:31:10,440 all responsibility and any kind of 712 00:31:15,249 --> 00:31:12,629 penalties they might pay they're gonna 713 00:31:17,570 --> 00:31:15,259 come to you and I they're not going to 714 00:31:20,239 --> 00:31:17,580 hurt their bottom line or come from 715 00:31:22,369 --> 00:31:20,249 their shareholders at all you know I'm 716 00:31:25,339 --> 00:31:22,379 still working in my old age because 717 00:31:27,769 --> 00:31:25,349 that's when I wrote a paper documenting 718 00:31:29,989 --> 00:31:27,779 problem lighting lighting is important 719 00:31:33,409 --> 00:31:29,999 you know big office buildings San Diego 720 00:31:37,580 --> 00:31:33,419 or LA or anywhere else in the world most 721 00:31:40,190 --> 00:31:37,590 of us wrestle Isis or LEDs that's a bad 722 00:31:43,700 --> 00:31:40,200 source of exposure I was wondering why 723 00:31:45,859 --> 00:31:43,710 people work he's healthy and if you 724 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:45,869 compare of kinds of working dirty shops 725 00:31:51,049 --> 00:31:48,450 to the kids reach their highest and 726 00:31:53,359 --> 00:31:51,059 people who work in office buildings and 727 00:31:56,180 --> 00:31:53,369 a lot of other stuff that is highlight 728 00:31:59,269 --> 00:31:56,190 assured that cancer that's related to 729 00:32:01,430 --> 00:31:59,279 the sunlight oh no no it's a lot more 730 00:32:04,060 --> 00:32:01,440 common people don't have any sunshine 731 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:04,070 exposure there's guys who work outdoors 732 00:32:08,989 --> 00:32:06,210 so you know damn well it's not the 733 00:32:12,799 --> 00:32:08,999 sunlight so like does it but Christmas 734 00:32:14,299 --> 00:32:12,809 does it too for sure mmm-hmm well there 735 00:32:17,269 --> 00:32:14,309 was also something really interesting 736 00:32:20,139 --> 00:32:17,279 about sunlight in one of the papers that 737 00:32:23,029 --> 00:32:20,149 you have where obviously we have this 738 00:32:25,609 --> 00:32:23,039 idea that sunlight is causing cancer and 739 00:32:28,220 --> 00:32:25,619 you write about a study of multiple 740 00:32:30,259 --> 00:32:28,230 sclerosis and vitamin D saying that the 741 00:32:32,269 --> 00:32:30,269 results show that the more sunshine 742 00:32:34,399 --> 00:32:32,279 there is where you live the less MS 743 00:32:36,710 --> 00:32:34,409 there is and you go on to say that your 744 00:32:39,799 --> 00:32:36,720 first cousin developed MS you told him 745 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:39,809 to get a job outside he did and it's 746 00:32:44,479 --> 00:32:41,730 been minimal ever since I think that's 747 00:32:47,539 --> 00:32:44,489 probably worth a mention hey hey I 748 00:32:50,210 --> 00:32:47,549 talked to him last year as a fact that I 749 00:32:52,039 --> 00:32:50,220 was really close with his brother about 750 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:52,049 things well you got a lot of problems 751 00:32:59,450 --> 00:32:56,690 with old age but he doesn't mention wow 752 00:33:01,849 --> 00:32:59,460 people are spending so much money in our 753 00:33:03,919 --> 00:33:01,859 broken health care system to fix these 754 00:33:06,470 --> 00:33:03,929 debilitating conditions and all you need 755 00:33:10,729 --> 00:33:06,480 to do sometimes is go outside or limit 756 00:33:13,759 --> 00:33:10,739 your exposure so I'll put my laughing 757 00:33:15,979 --> 00:33:13,769 not funny I mean we laugh so we don't 758 00:33:18,139 --> 00:33:15,989 cry right yeah 759 00:33:19,489 --> 00:33:18,149 well another thing I thought was 760 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:19,499 interesting because it's just right down 761 00:33:23,899 --> 00:33:21,450 the road from me San Diego State 762 00:33:25,549 --> 00:33:23,909 University you had a situation where 763 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:25,559 there was a cluster of eight cases of 764 00:33:29,799 --> 00:33:27,330 breast cancer in a short period of time 765 00:33:33,589 --> 00:33:29,809 come to find out it was electromagnetic 766 00:33:36,619 --> 00:33:33,599 radiation from the elevator system well 767 00:33:39,499 --> 00:33:36,629 I don't know what it was environmental 768 00:33:42,859 --> 00:33:39,509 in that place that don't let stuff down 769 00:33:45,349 --> 00:33:42,869 in that area they had a lot like motor 770 00:33:47,629 --> 00:33:45,359 yeah that's right remember forget the 771 00:33:50,930 --> 00:33:47,639 heck had a passable stroke a couple 772 00:33:53,359 --> 00:33:50,940 years ago I memory for four specific 773 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:53,369 places that is good it used to be oh 774 00:33:57,910 --> 00:33:55,610 yeah I mean there's also certain 775 00:34:00,370 --> 00:33:57,920 occupational problems do unusual 776 00:34:02,970 --> 00:34:00,380 exposure to high frequencies and high 777 00:34:04,510 --> 00:34:02,980 levels of dirty electricity and 778 00:34:08,050 --> 00:34:04,520 unfortunately they're going to keep 779 00:34:10,510 --> 00:34:08,060 happening do we get new electricity 780 00:34:13,570 --> 00:34:10,520 system or let's clean up all the dirty 781 00:34:15,190 --> 00:34:13,580 places yes and you mentioned the 782 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:15,200 lighting and that's something I wanted 783 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:17,930 to maybe have you elaborate on what is 784 00:34:22,060 --> 00:34:19,970 the best kind of lighting to put in our 785 00:34:25,330 --> 00:34:22,070 home or office is there any kind 786 00:34:26,950 --> 00:34:25,340 yeah the old good condition types look 787 00:34:28,660 --> 00:34:26,960 at they could make clean fluorescent so 788 00:34:32,170 --> 00:34:28,670 they can make clean out engage but they 789 00:34:36,820 --> 00:34:32,180 don't go out by stuff just by the oil in 790 00:34:38,220 --> 00:34:36,830 a vacuum bag 60 and 100 Hertz bulbs we 791 00:34:41,710 --> 00:34:38,230 use it 792 00:34:44,020 --> 00:34:41,720 some places cause you can't buy them 793 00:34:48,010 --> 00:34:44,030 anywhere there's a store and I might 794 00:34:50,110 --> 00:34:48,020 restore the apartment yeah I just find 795 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:50,120 that so curious the way the legal 796 00:34:55,150 --> 00:34:53,450 infrastructure is changing to support 797 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:55,160 things that aren't good for us but well 798 00:34:58,180 --> 00:34:56,450 you don't wait like the light bulb like 799 00:35:00,790 --> 00:34:58,190 it should take it AM radio work with you 800 00:35:03,100 --> 00:35:00,800 to the draw station and put it through 801 00:35:07,270 --> 00:35:03,110 the bulb to put those opposed it's ok 802 00:35:08,500 --> 00:35:07,280 you could find him under the drop mm-hmm 803 00:35:10,240 --> 00:35:08,510 that was something I found really 804 00:35:12,340 --> 00:35:10,250 interesting from the book is if you 805 00:35:15,550 --> 00:35:12,350 don't have a meter just you can use an 806 00:35:18,130 --> 00:35:15,560 AM radio to kind of notice the hum of 807 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:18,140 the static and it changes based on what 808 00:35:24,820 --> 00:35:20,690 it's picking up that's right put it in 809 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:24,830 your microwave put it dirty dirty bug or 810 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:26,570 any anything else that's putting out the 811 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:28,850 stuff some of the old TVs used to be bad 812 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:34,610 new ones hmm so have you we talked about 813 00:35:38,470 --> 00:35:36,410 the fact that we have this neutral 814 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:38,480 capacity return wiring that is not 815 00:35:44,890 --> 00:35:41,090 happening has there ever been a kind of 816 00:35:47,110 --> 00:35:44,900 a building built an office building or 817 00:35:48,970 --> 00:35:47,120 something where they do take all the 818 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:48,980 right precautions or maybe the advice 819 00:35:54,670 --> 00:35:51,650 you would give them and build something 820 00:35:58,660 --> 00:35:54,680 that's made specifically to kind of stop 821 00:36:01,540 --> 00:35:58,670 this dirty electricity no I sort of had 822 00:36:03,490 --> 00:36:01,550 the idea of trying to welcome rules for 823 00:36:06,130 --> 00:36:03,500 now but I think somebody want to build 824 00:36:07,710 --> 00:36:06,140 for all these people with me being sick 825 00:36:10,290 --> 00:36:07,720 by this stuff 826 00:36:12,150 --> 00:36:10,300 those are clean a liquid clean play as 827 00:36:14,010 --> 00:36:12,160 you could do it and you can build it 828 00:36:15,540 --> 00:36:14,020 just as cheap as you can do the regular 829 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:15,550 place you're gonna put it the right 830 00:36:22,230 --> 00:36:18,130 place you gotta build it properly and I 831 00:36:25,859 --> 00:36:22,240 like to come by not just not being done 832 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:25,869 mm-hmm and so one that some of the other 833 00:36:31,980 --> 00:36:29,650 major sources of exposure say within the 834 00:36:33,599 --> 00:36:31,990 home like if we were to hear this Emilio 835 00:36:35,069 --> 00:36:33,609 we got to get our house in order 836 00:36:38,390 --> 00:36:35,079 where are some of the first places we 837 00:36:41,510 --> 00:36:38,400 would go besides the lighting Oh 838 00:36:46,319 --> 00:36:41,520 anything that uses a whole lot of use 839 00:36:48,870 --> 00:36:46,329 vanilla your microwave my place really 840 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:48,880 clean compared to the place in 841 00:36:54,630 --> 00:36:51,970 California well you could find it with 842 00:36:57,089 --> 00:36:54,640 AM radio all the time you find any band 843 00:37:00,180 --> 00:36:57,099 emitters it'll make our AM radio 844 00:37:04,020 --> 00:37:00,190 positive because it's radio frequency 845 00:37:04,710 --> 00:37:04,030 where you'll pick it up yeah it's that 846 00:37:08,579 --> 00:37:04,720 simple huh 847 00:37:13,140 --> 00:37:08,589 yeah I could fancy equipment to measure 848 00:37:14,970 --> 00:37:13,150 but I always take a radio take a radio 849 00:37:24,870 --> 00:37:14,980 when you go to home people see all the 850 00:37:28,829 --> 00:37:24,880 places it buzzes they demonstrate mmm 851 00:37:31,109 --> 00:37:28,839 yeah it is a damn shame and you have 852 00:37:33,210 --> 00:37:31,119 found some really fascinating and 853 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:33,220 surprising places where we're being 854 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:35,650 damaged radio operators and the military 855 00:37:40,140 --> 00:37:37,690 ham radio operators you've even gotten 856 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:40,150 high readings while driving that you 857 00:37:44,250 --> 00:37:42,010 discovered was because of the magnetic 858 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:44,260 metal wiring and rotating tires that's 859 00:37:50,339 --> 00:37:47,890 interesting yeah well he ladies Academy 860 00:37:53,569 --> 00:37:50,349 pleased to carry my meals on twelve 861 00:37:56,910 --> 00:37:53,579 resonating echo some of the Californian 862 00:37:58,500 --> 00:37:56,920 was some places where the Wi-Fi is just 863 00:38:01,530 --> 00:37:58,510 know every building that got 864 00:38:03,359 --> 00:38:01,540 transmitters on it the Palm Springs I 865 00:38:06,290 --> 00:38:03,369 had to add a couple places with people 866 00:38:08,730 --> 00:38:06,300 he needs sick lots of stuff in this 867 00:38:10,319 --> 00:38:08,740 here's the bitterest room buildings like 868 00:38:12,780 --> 00:38:10,329 a quarter-mile away they were put in 869 00:38:15,030 --> 00:38:12,790 advance they had fields happen so they 870 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:15,040 has no idea where it was coming from she 871 00:38:19,530 --> 00:38:16,690 poured the meter at it 872 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:19,540 buzzes ordered away doesn't like 873 00:38:25,230 --> 00:38:22,210 directional RF meter Center find the 874 00:38:27,540 --> 00:38:25,240 stuff if it's coming from the source 875 00:38:30,180 --> 00:38:27,550 but then I measured when I was doing 876 00:38:32,580 --> 00:38:30,190 studying a farmers market at Palm 877 00:38:35,700 --> 00:38:32,590 Springs if most of the portion was 878 00:38:38,070 --> 00:38:35,710 coming from FN microwave transmitters on 879 00:38:40,830 --> 00:38:38,080 high-rise buildings to stop in to the 880 00:38:44,030 --> 00:38:40,840 campus but as I walked around in the 881 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:44,040 school boy there was a really bad spot 882 00:38:49,470 --> 00:38:46,450 where am I going to tell hey you had a 883 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:49,480 fancy pocket hmm but can't tell people 884 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:53,050 that you're nuts can't feel it you can't 885 00:38:56,010 --> 00:38:55,210 taste it if this never smelt bad or 886 00:38:59,700 --> 00:38:56,020 changed a bed 887 00:39:00,990 --> 00:38:59,710 we don't disagree indeed that was gonna 888 00:39:02,070 --> 00:39:01,000 be one of the questions I asked you 889 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:02,080 because I have heard you mention that 890 00:39:06,690 --> 00:39:04,930 farmers market before and I wasn't sure 891 00:39:09,210 --> 00:39:06,700 if it was just its location or if it was 892 00:39:12,950 --> 00:39:09,220 all the stuff that people bring to the 893 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:12,960 little cubicles within the market well 894 00:39:17,670 --> 00:39:15,850 most of the stuff they saw was growing 895 00:39:20,550 --> 00:39:17,680 in the house but it wasn't going to kill 896 00:39:22,590 --> 00:39:20,560 anybody that I did you go on Sunday with 897 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:22,600 a nice whole lot of the chocolate now 898 00:39:28,500 --> 00:39:24,370 you can find out if the stuff is dirty 899 00:39:30,420 --> 00:39:28,510 look at AM radio mm-hmm and we keep 900 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:30,430 mentioning the you know the fact that an 901 00:39:35,700 --> 00:39:32,890 AM radio will work what's the term for 902 00:39:37,470 --> 00:39:35,710 like a more sophisticated reader that an 903 00:39:40,710 --> 00:39:37,480 average person could go out and look at 904 00:39:43,980 --> 00:39:40,720 you can get a magnetic field meter and 905 00:39:46,530 --> 00:39:43,990 use one it cost a couple of bucks 906 00:39:49,500 --> 00:39:46,540 and well you know you can keep going on 907 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:49,510 and deeper I need a field meter hole 908 00:39:54,570 --> 00:39:51,970 puncher come I but I do most of my 909 00:39:57,140 --> 00:39:54,580 shopping right at the shop recently from 910 00:39:59,480 --> 00:39:57,150 a place in Albany New York 911 00:40:03,180 --> 00:39:59,490 Leslie enough I think it's called 912 00:40:05,849 --> 00:40:03,190 yeah let's see in that room you les Ian 913 00:40:09,450 --> 00:40:05,859 and there's a couple other places that 914 00:40:11,849 --> 00:40:09,460 sell if you put that up all the 915 00:40:14,460 --> 00:40:11,859 competitors to come up and hate that 916 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:14,470 with the delicate modern computer you I 917 00:40:19,460 --> 00:40:17,650 was looking for some vacation trips now 918 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:19,470 every screen will bring up the gutter 919 00:40:26,630 --> 00:40:23,890 nice vacation ship that comes up because 920 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:26,640 I asked for it about a month ago 921 00:40:34,290 --> 00:40:30,010 yes those advertising bots are quite 922 00:40:36,870 --> 00:40:34,300 smart these days yeah okay and on the 923 00:40:39,690 --> 00:40:36,880 subject of unusual places to find high 924 00:40:41,370 --> 00:40:39,700 readings what about the shower yeah 925 00:40:44,130 --> 00:40:41,380 where would have my house because Morgan 926 00:40:46,980 --> 00:40:44,140 sure was at that place goes just by 927 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:46,990 where it was it's got water running 928 00:40:52,260 --> 00:40:49,690 metal pipes you have more middle pipes 929 00:40:55,230 --> 00:40:52,270 around your body down there needing it 930 00:40:58,170 --> 00:40:55,240 his attachment came to the floor where 931 00:41:00,780 --> 00:40:58,180 else would he ask a terabyte like that 932 00:41:03,770 --> 00:41:00,790 for very long he's got to touch the 933 00:41:07,589 --> 00:41:03,780 handles to get hotter cold 934 00:41:09,270 --> 00:41:07,599 mercury reading you - mm-hmm 935 00:41:10,890 --> 00:41:09,280 yeah I thought that was really 936 00:41:12,420 --> 00:41:10,900 interesting I wouldn't have thought that 937 00:41:15,450 --> 00:41:12,430 at first and I've heard you talk about 938 00:41:18,329 --> 00:41:15,460 how this work though it is frustrating 939 00:41:20,430 --> 00:41:18,339 that no he's nobody's doing anything you 940 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:20,440 keep doing it even up into your old age 941 00:41:24,180 --> 00:41:22,450 because it's kind of exciting and 942 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:24,190 there's all kinds of twists and turns 943 00:41:29,220 --> 00:41:26,650 and the work is always changing you're 944 00:41:32,190 --> 00:41:29,230 always learning new stuff yeah I want to 945 00:41:33,690 --> 00:41:32,200 go down the north - well when weather 946 00:41:35,550 --> 00:41:33,700 gets better I'm going to open 947 00:41:37,410 --> 00:41:35,560 measure the river was a cow got 948 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:37,420 electrocuted no wanna go down just a 949 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:41,290 couple women then emits middle age of 40 950 00:41:47,980 --> 00:41:44,770 certainty said we're swimming read the 951 00:41:51,910 --> 00:41:47,990 word on them and Alabama 952 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:51,920 I did kaboom separate oh my god and the 953 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:53,570 guys are waiting to get the bodies I got 954 00:42:00,640 --> 00:41:57,050 shocked so they they told you what was 955 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:00,650 going on mm-hmm we know where to take on 956 00:42:06,609 --> 00:42:05,210 shark and the freshwater saltwater so 957 00:42:10,540 --> 00:42:06,619 productive doesn't get to you 958 00:42:13,750 --> 00:42:10,550 mm-hmm it's a bridge back you write in 959 00:42:15,370 --> 00:42:13,760 the book a little about this long career 960 00:42:17,410 --> 00:42:15,380 you've had and you published some of 961 00:42:19,060 --> 00:42:17,420 these early findings about leukemia and 962 00:42:22,780 --> 00:42:19,070 cancer and you had a lot of colleagues 963 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:22,790 that came back at you and didn't believe 964 00:42:26,770 --> 00:42:24,770 this stuff and you just said hey look 965 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:26,780 prove me wrong that's all you got to do 966 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:28,130 we don't need to huff and puff just 967 00:42:32,980 --> 00:42:30,530 prove me wrong how are they responding 968 00:42:36,849 --> 00:42:32,990 to your work now I'm sure you of course 969 00:42:39,579 --> 00:42:36,859 you haven't been hey that's the nurse - 970 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:39,589 about ten years ago I wrote a paper and 971 00:42:46,150 --> 00:42:42,490 a couple of guys took a professorship 972 00:42:48,099 --> 00:42:46,160 we've got you came here wrote a critique 973 00:42:51,190 --> 00:42:48,109 and a critique was full of crap I mean 974 00:42:53,859 --> 00:42:51,200 and every time I read a paper nothing 975 00:42:55,720 --> 00:42:53,869 well they dip their hand the aunt 976 00:42:58,020 --> 00:42:55,730 acknowledging one of the recent papers 977 00:43:01,480 --> 00:42:58,030 were recent critiques that they write 978 00:43:04,089 --> 00:43:01,490 second 70 said now I remember it okay 979 00:43:06,070 --> 00:43:04,099 bring these guys right out nasty rebut 980 00:43:08,230 --> 00:43:06,080 to it but they don't make sense or that 981 00:43:09,130 --> 00:43:08,240 I wrote them exactly the same 982 00:43:11,290 --> 00:43:09,140 glitterizer 983 00:43:14,980 --> 00:43:11,300 I wrote about the book I said that's 984 00:43:17,140 --> 00:43:14,990 sure I'm wrong Joseph sure that what we 985 00:43:20,740 --> 00:43:17,150 found was wrong and he showed that it 986 00:43:24,700 --> 00:43:20,750 doesn't exist instead of going in his 987 00:43:25,390 --> 00:43:24,710 editor oh [\h__\h] comparisons but whatever 988 00:43:31,570 --> 00:43:25,400 all right 989 00:43:33,099 --> 00:43:31,580 you guy can accepted a shitty now 990 00:43:34,720 --> 00:43:33,109 unfortunately that those guys getting 991 00:43:37,500 --> 00:43:34,730 paid by Electric Power Research 992 00:43:39,970 --> 00:43:37,510 Institute which is a wholly wholly owned 993 00:43:42,579 --> 00:43:39,980 wholly subsidized by the private 994 00:43:45,700 --> 00:43:42,589 utilities it's a lot of money and they 995 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:45,710 printed these guys junk at RIT stupid 996 00:43:53,500 --> 00:43:50,810 avers and but you know I read to some of 997 00:43:55,240 --> 00:43:53,510 the same journals usually editor or the 998 00:43:58,720 --> 00:43:55,250 chaos today we got another one of these 999 00:43:59,770 --> 00:43:58,730 disclaiming letters and he she finally 1000 00:44:02,250 --> 00:43:59,780 told 1001 00:44:05,500 --> 00:44:02,260 don't bother sending these to us anymore 1002 00:44:08,770 --> 00:44:05,510 but you know the other people I don't do 1003 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:08,780 it but anyway you can't believe 1004 00:44:13,270 --> 00:44:10,490 everything you read I like you took a 1005 00:44:15,310 --> 00:44:13,280 good journal we know we mentioned a 1006 00:44:20,620 --> 00:44:15,320 couple of really serious conditions like 1007 00:44:22,420 --> 00:44:20,630 leukemia and various cancers yeah that's 1008 00:44:24,910 --> 00:44:22,430 a serious one well my question was gonna 1009 00:44:26,859 --> 00:44:24,920 be are these conditions reversible by 1010 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:26,869 getting away from this stuff suicide of 1011 00:44:32,260 --> 00:44:28,970 course not so much but are any of these 1012 00:44:34,810 --> 00:44:32,270 other conditions yes yes yes yes know it 1013 00:44:38,050 --> 00:44:34,820 suicides really high and the US Armed 1014 00:44:40,599 --> 00:44:38,060 Forces but it's not high sailors does 1015 00:44:42,820 --> 00:44:40,609 not hire people who were stationed in 1016 00:44:45,430 --> 00:44:42,830 the Middle East the Middle East they 1017 00:44:47,830 --> 00:44:45,440 air-conditioned and they don't know how 1018 00:44:52,450 --> 00:44:47,840 to do it and people get electrocuted 1019 00:44:55,060 --> 00:44:52,460 yeah yeah really primitive equipment and 1020 00:44:57,460 --> 00:44:55,070 they were getting exposed just killing 1021 00:45:02,410 --> 00:44:57,470 them no mm-hmm I'm sure you could we 1022 00:45:04,359 --> 00:45:02,420 could get rid of a lot of survival right 1023 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:04,369 I mean my thought would be that some of 1024 00:45:09,220 --> 00:45:06,410 those suicides would be related to some 1025 00:45:10,839 --> 00:45:09,230 of the horrors they see over there no no 1026 00:45:13,329 --> 00:45:10,849 no it's not it's not the guys who were 1027 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:13,339 shooting it cooked and anybody else who 1028 00:45:16,240 --> 00:45:14,330 worked over there 1029 00:45:18,339 --> 00:45:16,250 and the people who were stationed in the 1030 00:45:21,550 --> 00:45:18,349 cooler climates don't commit suicide 1031 00:45:23,710 --> 00:45:21,560 people fly planes are at 600 suicide 1032 00:45:26,230 --> 00:45:23,720 it's just these people were stationed at 1033 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:26,240 places where they were spending two 1034 00:45:32,710 --> 00:45:28,930 billion dollars on oil to air-condition 1035 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:32,720 hmm interesting I think I wrote that up 1036 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:36,530 in the paper that's in the book are you 1037 00:45:42,250 --> 00:45:40,690 really gonna jettison tomorrow night 1038 00:45:43,990 --> 00:45:42,260 you've said enough 1039 00:45:46,470 --> 00:45:44,000 you know it with this book I mean 1040 00:45:49,180 --> 00:45:46,480 anybody can take it it's written and 1041 00:45:51,670 --> 00:45:49,190 it's well segmented it's written in 1042 00:45:54,220 --> 00:45:51,680 these little segments where you know you 1043 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:54,230 can digest one thing before going on to 1044 00:45:58,720 --> 00:45:56,210 the next and it makes a pretty ironclad 1045 00:46:01,329 --> 00:45:58,730 case I don't know how much more you need 1046 00:46:03,070 --> 00:46:01,339 to put in it yes well I want to get it 1047 00:46:03,810 --> 00:46:03,080 to Congress but you know they were real 1048 00:46:06,700 --> 00:46:03,820 crooked 1049 00:46:09,790 --> 00:46:06,710 once the summit arts of the villains are 1050 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:09,800 no two candidates I wondered how many 1051 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:12,690 have been as good a judge 1052 00:46:20,240 --> 00:46:16,050 yeah he said he or some person yeah 1053 00:46:24,460 --> 00:46:20,250 there Pete Buddha judge yeah he just get 1054 00:46:25,930 --> 00:46:24,470 that come on fancy cookies real hangover 1055 00:46:28,460 --> 00:46:25,940 mm-hmm 1056 00:46:30,410 --> 00:46:28,470 yeah I thought he wasn't so bad but hey 1057 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:30,420 yeah that's a red flag 1058 00:46:38,690 --> 00:46:34,170 no that that it's one thing I'm sort of 1059 00:46:40,819 --> 00:46:38,700 - I don't wear well one thing I like to 1060 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:40,829 focus on when we are looking at some 1061 00:46:47,150 --> 00:46:44,130 material that is new to people and kind 1062 00:46:48,829 --> 00:46:47,160 of complex is you know who really knew 1063 00:46:50,359 --> 00:46:48,839 what when and when it comes to the solar 1064 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:50,369 panels I've heard you say that the 1065 00:46:55,010 --> 00:46:52,890 industry knows the solar inverters are 1066 00:46:56,809 --> 00:46:55,020 the problem you've read white papers 1067 00:46:59,300 --> 00:46:56,819 where they pretty much put it in there 1068 00:47:01,760 --> 00:46:59,310 well not just that but that's a place is 1069 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:01,770 really generated it was one place it 1070 00:47:05,059 --> 00:47:04,410 desert that they're shot the Palm 1071 00:47:07,730 --> 00:47:05,069 Springs 1072 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:07,740 they had like 15 guys work there buddy 1073 00:47:12,620 --> 00:47:09,930 eat them they don't diabetes the time 1074 00:47:14,780 --> 00:47:12,630 they work there they hope these are 1075 00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:14,790 couple of years and I didn't write that 1076 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:18,450 up I just told telling everybody they 1077 00:47:23,809 --> 00:47:21,210 want to find out well diabetes is for 1078 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:23,819 sure tied to this can you elaborate on 1079 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:25,410 that because so many people are already 1080 00:47:30,319 --> 00:47:27,690 kind of pre-programmed to assume that 1081 00:47:32,839 --> 00:47:30,329 it's diet related diabetes I mean an 1082 00:47:34,599 --> 00:47:32,849 obesity - do you think this would be 1083 00:47:37,970 --> 00:47:34,609 about the food we're putting in our body 1084 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:37,980 got my website I got papers on obesity 1085 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:43,010 and diabetes it the obesity stuff showed 1086 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:45,810 that look at the places in the world 1087 00:47:49,339 --> 00:47:47,690 that her or keep her fat ass through 1088 00:47:53,059 --> 00:47:49,349 places where they're getting these 1089 00:47:54,890 --> 00:47:53,069 exposures that's in the southeast it 1090 00:47:57,859 --> 00:47:54,900 wasn't always that way they used each 1091 00:48:00,380 --> 00:47:57,869 efficient stuff they harvested then 1092 00:48:04,870 --> 00:48:00,390 World War two came we brought in troops 1093 00:48:07,130 --> 00:48:04,880 and us food and then they got fat 1094 00:48:09,140 --> 00:48:07,140 whatever wait I don't want to get into 1095 00:48:11,359 --> 00:48:09,150 what they got drive on that mm-hmm 1096 00:48:13,490 --> 00:48:11,369 well here's a little mind blower that I 1097 00:48:16,190 --> 00:48:13,500 love from your book you talk about this 1098 00:48:18,770 --> 00:48:16,200 weird correlation between economic 1099 00:48:21,050 --> 00:48:18,780 recessions and better health that has 1100 00:48:23,720 --> 00:48:21,060 puzzled scientists for years where in 1101 00:48:25,370 --> 00:48:23,730 recessions we get better life expectancy 1102 00:48:26,030 --> 00:48:25,380 and mortality rates despite the 1103 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:26,040 convention 1104 00:48:30,380 --> 00:48:27,930 knowledge that they would get worse and 1105 00:48:32,180 --> 00:48:30,390 the contributing factor might be people 1106 00:48:33,890 --> 00:48:32,190 not being able to keep the lights on is 1107 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:33,900 that right that's it 1108 00:48:37,580 --> 00:48:35,970 you look at every time we've had a big 1109 00:48:40,730 --> 00:48:37,590 recession in this country people got 1110 00:48:42,490 --> 00:48:40,740 healthier happened down in Cuba too when 1111 00:48:44,990 --> 00:48:42,500 things got tough down there 1112 00:48:47,470 --> 00:48:45,000 unfortunately your ass woman it could 1113 00:48:49,910 --> 00:48:47,480 have lit electricity kills you 1114 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:49,920 that's where the Amos stuff they don't 1115 00:48:55,730 --> 00:48:53,130 Isla Cruces doesn't kill him mm-hmm and 1116 00:48:58,490 --> 00:48:55,740 it's all the drugs and stuff that people 1117 00:49:01,100 --> 00:48:58,500 take get headache and headache is one of 1118 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:01,110 the main major symptoms of stuff head 1119 00:49:07,070 --> 00:49:05,130 ain't you funny Paulson device to get 1120 00:49:09,100 --> 00:49:07,080 funny feelings down in that house in 1121 00:49:12,830 --> 00:49:09,110 California or when I moved up here again 1122 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:12,840 or it was just what a difference 1123 00:49:17,420 --> 00:49:15,090 I got a nice clean house the ground Kurt 1124 00:49:20,540 --> 00:49:17,430 doesn't get in my house as a son posted 1125 00:49:22,730 --> 00:49:20,550 posted beam down there they had a slab 1126 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:22,740 the basement there's no way to avoid 1127 00:49:29,900 --> 00:49:26,490 this stuff tech wrote about it well 1128 00:49:31,820 --> 00:49:29,910 right in terms of the types of houses 1129 00:49:34,490 --> 00:49:31,830 people have their basements their slabs 1130 00:49:37,090 --> 00:49:34,500 they're on some kind of maybe risers or 1131 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:37,100 stilts what is the best option 1132 00:49:44,450 --> 00:49:39,330 something the kitchen wait in the ground 1133 00:49:46,460 --> 00:49:44,460 number one just a man house or dc-dc 1134 00:49:49,270 --> 00:49:46,470 house off grid that'd be the best way to 1135 00:49:52,700 --> 00:49:49,280 live you can have your electricity and 1136 00:49:58,010 --> 00:49:52,710 it's not going to get you hey C is bad 1137 00:50:03,620 --> 00:49:58,020 that's all that Christmas AC except some 1138 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:03,630 places really mm-hmm and so many of us 1139 00:50:08,780 --> 00:50:06,570 are economically shackled to our 1140 00:50:12,380 --> 00:50:08,790 situation it's really hard to make some 1141 00:50:17,870 --> 00:50:12,390 drastic change I know I look like an a 1142 00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:17,880 picker another torn 19 year old truck we 1143 00:50:21,380 --> 00:50:19,170 got another old car we're going to go 1144 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:21,390 buy a car and I started researching and 1145 00:50:25,730 --> 00:50:23,370 I thought all the different assets got 1146 00:50:28,610 --> 00:50:25,740 just pollution affordances devices or to 1147 00:50:31,780 --> 00:50:28,620 radar you know that's bad news except 1148 00:50:36,190 --> 00:50:31,790 for the Subaru so I'm gonna buy a super 1149 00:50:41,859 --> 00:50:36,200 is waiting just hold on safer 1150 00:50:44,319 --> 00:50:41,869 Smith compared to but NEXRAD radar mhm 1151 00:50:49,390 --> 00:50:44,329 look imagine working in a tollbooth the 1152 00:50:52,059 --> 00:50:49,400 recurrent comes up is a kanya Wow people 1153 00:50:54,670 --> 00:50:52,069 have brought a head electric cars and 1154 00:50:57,819 --> 00:50:54,680 measured a couple of really bad news I 1155 00:50:59,289 --> 00:50:57,829 would have one I've measured it found it 1156 00:51:01,750 --> 00:50:59,299 my queen Wow 1157 00:51:04,329 --> 00:51:01,760 yes I'm sure it can be if you know what 1158 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:04,339 you're trying to get you can get it but 1159 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:06,490 people still talk about the problems 1160 00:51:10,839 --> 00:51:08,690 yeah well I mean there's not a lot of 1161 00:51:12,130 --> 00:51:10,849 consumer advocacy out there anymore it's 1162 00:51:14,829 --> 00:51:12,140 really tough to find good information 1163 00:51:16,270 --> 00:51:14,839 when everything's so compromised well 1164 00:51:19,780 --> 00:51:16,280 that's what people are interested in is 1165 00:51:23,470 --> 00:51:19,790 5g I'll stop it but time to get it out 1166 00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:23,480 here I'll be gone but there are your 1167 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:25,450 grandkids 1168 00:51:32,720 --> 00:51:28,210 a lot of other people relatives coming 1169 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:36,089 well it is so sad but that's why I 1170 00:51:40,020 --> 00:51:38,290 wanted you to be here I mean that's what 1171 00:51:43,020 --> 00:51:40,030 I try to do with most of the guests is 1172 00:51:46,079 --> 00:51:43,030 find credible experts who are kind of 1173 00:51:48,030 --> 00:51:46,089 isolated in their position I mean we've 1174 00:51:51,349 --> 00:51:48,040 already talked about a giant industry 1175 00:51:53,700 --> 00:51:51,359 that pays people to give out the 1176 00:51:56,790 --> 00:51:53,710 counterpoints but it's hard for the 1177 00:51:58,579 --> 00:51:56,800 average person to find a book like yours 1178 00:52:01,380 --> 00:51:58,589 and be like you know despite what 1179 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:01,390 everything is telling me I'm gonna trust 1180 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:03,010 this guy because you're right we can't 1181 00:52:08,069 --> 00:52:05,410 see it now you can't feel it it's there 1182 00:52:10,020 --> 00:52:08,079 just measuring it thinking a paranoid oh 1183 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:10,030 my god I know where it's bad 1184 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:12,490 I don't avoid those places dog 1185 00:52:16,260 --> 00:52:14,410 fortunately what are evil entities 1186 00:52:19,349 --> 00:52:16,270 laughing good whether we replace the 1187 00:52:21,089 --> 00:52:19,359 farmers market downtown and one day I 1188 00:52:22,829 --> 00:52:21,099 measured them oh my god I couldn't we 1189 00:52:27,770 --> 00:52:22,839 thought that it was for the lots of 1190 00:52:29,819 --> 00:52:27,780 sources you know I told people that it 1191 00:52:32,910 --> 00:52:29,829 organizes the shop with this dog 1192 00:52:38,430 --> 00:52:32,920 leukemia the DNA work guarantee a week 1193 00:52:40,859 --> 00:52:38,440 or whatever and this might be an odd 1194 00:52:43,319 --> 00:52:40,869 question but I'm just curious how has 1195 00:52:45,180 --> 00:52:43,329 this work affected the way you think 1196 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:45,190 about the human body because sometimes 1197 00:52:50,359 --> 00:52:47,050 when people start talking about energy 1198 00:52:53,190 --> 00:52:50,369 fields or auras or chakras or the body's 1199 00:52:55,109 --> 00:52:53,200 electromagnetic system eyes can roll 1200 00:52:57,809 --> 00:52:55,119 people tend to like what they can see 1201 00:53:00,150 --> 00:52:57,819 but the body is pretty complex I know 1202 00:53:03,329 --> 00:53:00,160 your parents were Orthodox Christians 1203 00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:03,339 which might relate but has this gained 1204 00:53:08,220 --> 00:53:05,890 knowledge had any sort of effect on the 1205 00:53:10,970 --> 00:53:08,230 way you think about the body or unseen 1206 00:53:14,609 --> 00:53:10,980 parts of it or even spirituality 1207 00:53:18,059 --> 00:53:14,619 spirituality doesn't do it I'm 1208 00:53:20,339 --> 00:53:18,069 completely agnostic and we're kind of 1209 00:53:22,380 --> 00:53:20,349 that's made me more self anything but 1210 00:53:24,839 --> 00:53:22,390 it's all right here this is another 1211 00:53:28,079 --> 00:53:24,849 environmental stressor like hot weather 1212 00:53:30,690 --> 00:53:28,089 or or anything else that that's bad and 1213 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:30,700 I feel bad that the animals that can't 1214 00:53:34,980 --> 00:53:32,530 control their environment but work on 1215 00:53:38,720 --> 00:53:34,990 that work too you know we're on Crichton 1216 00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:38,730 and grounded dirty cities well any 1217 00:53:47,089 --> 00:53:43,490 curtain two analyses by urban and rural 1218 00:53:49,720 --> 00:53:47,099 that's changed the old datums urban 1219 00:53:52,130 --> 00:53:49,730 people were fine now they're not so fine 1220 00:53:54,349 --> 00:53:52,140 so tell us about something look at that 1221 00:53:57,650 --> 00:53:54,359 because it feels get harder from from 1222 00:54:00,380 --> 00:53:57,660 the towers you just make the phone to 1223 00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:00,390 work okay where will you've had you had 1224 00:54:05,329 --> 00:54:03,570 your our got a call sure I just wanted 1225 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:05,339 it the only thing is uh you know I'm 1226 00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:07,410 brought up the spirituality aspect just 1227 00:54:11,240 --> 00:54:09,810 because a lot of people in that camp say 1228 00:54:13,310 --> 00:54:11,250 things like oh you need to ground 1229 00:54:16,310 --> 00:54:13,320 yourself by one of these grounding mats 1230 00:54:18,710 --> 00:54:16,320 or blankets oh no no God I'm glad you 1231 00:54:19,940 --> 00:54:18,720 got to that don't crowd yourself the 1232 00:54:22,670 --> 00:54:19,950 ground is filthy 1233 00:54:25,730 --> 00:54:22,680 I mean I wrote a paper on that summer 1234 00:54:27,770 --> 00:54:25,740 ticket got on the website like what this 1235 00:54:30,050 --> 00:54:27,780 guy in Palm Springs who sells a damn 1236 00:54:31,250 --> 00:54:30,060 thing he saw everything mats they wrote 1237 00:54:32,990 --> 00:54:31,260 a book or everything which is all 1238 00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:33,000 Philippa he'd say they don't know 1239 00:54:38,599 --> 00:54:35,570 anything about electricity 1240 00:54:43,059 --> 00:54:38,609 people call me out again say I got this 1241 00:54:45,740 --> 00:54:43,069 that I don't feel don't use it sit back 1242 00:54:47,690 --> 00:54:45,750 well I thank I didn't open up the when 1243 00:54:50,809 --> 00:54:47,700 he said rather than outside line to the 1244 00:54:53,839 --> 00:54:50,819 grand I used to in my plug it's got a 1245 00:54:58,040 --> 00:54:53,849 grand in it and no matter what I did I 1246 00:55:01,910 --> 00:54:58,050 feel it in my body wouldn't get without 1247 00:55:04,550 --> 00:55:01,920 so don't so grant grounding a bad news 1248 00:55:06,530 --> 00:55:04,560 indeed well lastly are there any 1249 00:55:08,660 --> 00:55:06,540 products that you do recommend for the 1250 00:55:09,079 --> 00:55:08,670 home adapters we can put on our plugs or 1251 00:55:12,470 --> 00:55:09,089 anything 1252 00:55:17,089 --> 00:55:12,480 Oh what thing you could buy dips that's 1253 00:55:18,829 --> 00:55:17,099 our ste TCE ourselves filters you can 1254 00:55:21,079 --> 00:55:18,839 plug in your outlets if you have to the 1255 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:21,089 electricity it'll will take out certain 1256 00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:23,010 frequencies and it's made a big 1257 00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:26,130 difference of diabetics and cured some 1258 00:55:30,140 --> 00:55:27,930 people of diseases leak and they got 1259 00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:30,150 from her electricity that's what I've 1260 00:55:33,829 --> 00:55:31,650 got him in my house and then you cross 1261 00:55:35,150 --> 00:55:33,839 that watching they've been here for 20 1262 00:55:37,340 --> 00:55:35,160 years 1263 00:55:39,050 --> 00:55:37,350 so should make sure that the kids at my 1264 00:55:42,140 --> 00:55:39,060 house was as clean as I can get them 1265 00:55:46,490 --> 00:55:42,150 I've got a screen I put on my microwave 1266 00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:46,500 oh well we like to pay my excess money 1267 00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:49,650 and headset that puts green does it does 1268 00:55:53,810 --> 00:55:52,050 it get me that measured with and without 1269 00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:53,820 the screen it makes a big difference 1270 00:55:59,300 --> 00:55:57,450 little stuff like that okay when I 1271 00:56:02,480 --> 00:55:59,310 bought my TV I checked it was a good 1272 00:56:05,450 --> 00:56:02,490 woman did provide bad solution I don't 1273 00:56:06,950 --> 00:56:05,460 have any I got one I'm white house a 1274 00:56:09,770 --> 00:56:06,960 fluorescent light button everything 1275 00:56:11,050 --> 00:56:09,780 related to demonstrate to people puts 1276 00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:11,060 out fields 1277 00:56:17,780 --> 00:56:15,210 all right well doc it is a lot to take 1278 00:56:20,330 --> 00:56:17,790 in but I have so much respect for your 1279 00:56:22,490 --> 00:56:20,340 work again the book is dirty electricity 1280 00:56:25,550 --> 00:56:22,500 you've been doing this your whole life 1281 00:56:27,020 --> 00:56:25,560 been very dedicated and I really 1282 00:56:30,860 --> 00:56:27,030 appreciate it again I'll put links to 1283 00:56:32,860 --> 00:56:30,870 your website it is your name and thanks 1284 00:56:38,620 --> 00:56:32,870 so much keep fighting the good fight oh 1285 00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:38,630 I've been rude take care take care 1286 00:56:44,830 --> 00:56:42,450 alright guys dr. Sam Mel him doing his 1287 00:56:47,990 --> 00:56:44,840 thing fighting back the big machine and 1288 00:56:50,150 --> 00:56:48,000 exposing the untold dangers of working 1289 00:56:51,530 --> 00:56:50,160 on the ground floor of some of these 1290 00:56:54,050 --> 00:56:51,540 shady companies 1291 00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:54,060 he's like the Erin Brockovich of dirty 1292 00:56:59,180 --> 00:56:56,370 electricity and he's definitely made me 1293 00:57:01,220 --> 00:56:59,190 more aware of a subject area that I 1294 00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:01,230 think a lot of us are probably quite 1295 00:57:08,930 --> 00:57:05,130 ignorant of I know we hear about 5g and 1296 00:57:11,450 --> 00:57:08,940 smart meters quite a bit but this dirty 1297 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:11,460 electricity issue is still within the 1298 00:57:17,020 --> 00:57:14,010 realm but it's completely untalked about 1299 00:57:19,580 --> 00:57:17,030 and it's been going on for a long time 1300 00:57:20,990 --> 00:57:19,590 his book does cover a lot of ground and 1301 00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:21,000 I had some other things I wanted to 1302 00:57:25,970 --> 00:57:23,490 bring up but I didn't know we were only 1303 00:57:29,510 --> 00:57:25,980 getting an hour until we got to an hour 1304 00:57:31,790 --> 00:57:29,520 but that's okay obviously I was able to 1305 00:57:34,370 --> 00:57:31,800 fit in quite a few questions in just an 1306 00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:34,380 hour because dr. mill hems responses 1307 00:57:41,580 --> 00:57:37,290 were a little more direct then some of 1308 00:57:43,260 --> 00:57:41,590 our longer winded guests that's for sure 1309 00:57:46,790 --> 00:57:43,270 one thing I got thinking about was 1310 00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:46,800 forest bathing this somewhat mystical 1311 00:57:52,230 --> 00:57:49,570 idea we had been talking about about the 1312 00:57:54,750 --> 00:57:52,240 Japanese having success and healing by 1313 00:57:55,980 --> 00:57:54,760 going out into the forest well maybe 1314 00:57:58,740 --> 00:57:55,990 they're just getting away from their 1315 00:58:01,500 --> 00:57:58,750 electrical environment I also thought 1316 00:58:03,270 --> 00:58:01,510 the mortality rates I mean we did talk 1317 00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:03,280 about this but those mortality rates 1318 00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:06,730 during recessions and depressions not 1319 00:58:11,460 --> 00:58:09,250 really correlating to the conventional 1320 00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:11,470 wisdom was also interesting and maybe it 1321 00:58:16,530 --> 00:58:13,810 does have to do with not being able to 1322 00:58:18,570 --> 00:58:16,540 keep the lights on or having to ration 1323 00:58:22,740 --> 00:58:18,580 electricity it ends up boosting your 1324 00:58:24,690 --> 00:58:22,750 health even in times of poverty I'm no 1325 00:58:27,210 --> 00:58:24,700 scientist I'm just going off dr. Mel 1326 00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:27,220 hems work of course but I do think this 1327 00:58:32,250 --> 00:58:29,890 is all really interesting and food for 1328 00:58:33,930 --> 00:58:32,260 thought for sure you know I don't trust 1329 00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:33,940 a corporation any further than I can 1330 00:58:40,170 --> 00:58:37,090 throw them so to see someone calling 1331 00:58:42,540 --> 00:58:40,180 them out it's a beautiful thing that's 1332 00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:42,550 also why this really is just going to be 1333 00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:44,410 a timed exclusive for plus people 1334 00:58:49,110 --> 00:58:47,170 because I'm sure it can be frustrating 1335 00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:49,120 to have spent all these years on this 1336 00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:51,250 feel as if you're not being heard or 1337 00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:54,010 your expertise appreciated and so I 1338 00:58:58,920 --> 00:58:55,930 don't want to hold him back either and 1339 00:59:02,430 --> 00:58:58,930 I'd like to at least get him the largest 1340 00:59:04,770 --> 00:59:02,440 audience that I can out of respect but I 1341 00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:04,780 also want to treat the people who do 1342 00:59:09,570 --> 00:59:06,970 keep the THC train moving or we wouldn't 1343 00:59:11,610 --> 00:59:09,580 be here so when a show like this comes 1344 00:59:14,730 --> 00:59:11,620 up that falls outside of the normal 1345 00:59:17,910 --> 00:59:14,740 routine I try to think of ways to still 1346 00:59:19,980 --> 00:59:17,920 make it a overall win-win and I know 1347 00:59:22,140 --> 00:59:19,990 that we talked to a lot of credible 1348 00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:22,150 experts in different areas and it's 1349 00:59:27,390 --> 00:59:24,370 common to hear a laundry list of 1350 00:59:30,870 --> 00:59:27,400 conditions that are assigned to issue a 1351 00:59:34,020 --> 00:59:30,880 B or C and it can be confusing and hard 1352 00:59:35,850 --> 00:59:34,030 to know exactly what is causing what but 1353 00:59:39,300 --> 00:59:35,860 I try not to get too bogged down on 1354 00:59:41,670 --> 00:59:39,310 those specific details and think whether 1355 00:59:44,100 --> 00:59:41,680 or not dirty electricity is say the 1356 00:59:46,950 --> 00:59:44,110 leading cause of obesity I think we 1357 00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:46,960 should still be aware of it and limit 1358 00:59:51,870 --> 00:59:49,810 our overall exposure you know whether 1359 00:59:55,290 --> 00:59:51,880 this is the number one issue we're 1360 00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:55,300 facing or the number seven issue or 1361 01:00:00,030 --> 00:59:57,130 facing it's still something to be aware 1362 01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:00,040 of and I think we hit on several areas 1363 01:00:05,010 --> 01:00:02,290 of exposure especially in the home that 1364 01:00:06,650 --> 01:00:05,020 many of us probably didn't see coming we 1365 01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:06,660 also heard about how these corporations 1366 01:00:11,580 --> 01:00:09,370 funded their own experts and smear 1367 01:00:14,610 --> 01:00:11,590 campaigns and how dr. Mel hem has had to 1368 01:00:17,010 --> 01:00:14,620 deal with that too but his book is short 1369 01:00:19,700 --> 01:00:17,020 and sweet one part autobiographical 1370 01:00:21,660 --> 01:00:19,710 memoir and then one part rapid-fire 1371 01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:21,670 explanations of different case studies 1372 01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:24,730 he's worked on and different segments of 1373 01:00:28,140 --> 01:00:26,290 workers who are damaged by the 1374 01:00:31,770 --> 01:00:28,150 environment their employees put them in 1375 01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:31,780 and of course the improper wiring and 1376 01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:33,730 dumping that they still aren't being 1377 01:00:39,090 --> 01:00:37,210 held accountable for so good stuff and I 1378 01:00:41,610 --> 01:00:39,100 absolutely have a lot of respect for 1379 01:00:44,190 --> 01:00:41,620 what he's done and I know sometimes the 1380 01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:44,200 aging guests we talked to can be a bit 1381 01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:47,770 hard to hear but for me these are really 1382 01:00:51,900 --> 01:00:49,690 important interviews to get under my 1383 01:00:54,300 --> 01:00:51,910 belt to get into my archives 1384 01:00:57,060 --> 01:00:54,310 it's like collecting Pokemon but 1385 01:01:00,000 --> 01:00:57,070 sometimes it's either get them now or 1386 01:01:02,220 --> 01:01:00,010 don't get them at all but consider this 1387 01:01:03,690 --> 01:01:02,230 a little extra icing on the tht cake 1388 01:01:05,970 --> 01:01:03,700 this month thanks for being a plus 1389 01:01:08,100 --> 01:01:05,980 member or if you're hearing this when 1390 01:01:10,110 --> 01:01:08,110 it's out for everyone you're welcome 1391 01:01:11,490 --> 01:01:10,120 consider signing up for the full show 1392 01:01:14,250 --> 01:01:11,500 because it's my only source of income 1393 01:01:15,750 --> 01:01:14,260 and my only focus is to concentrate on 1394 01:01:19,170 --> 01:01:15,760 continuing to put out a high-quality 1395 01:01:21,950 --> 01:01:19,180 show that has very little fluff and no 1396 01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:21,960 commercials or unrelated wasted time 1397 01:01:26,790 --> 01:01:24,610 that said I'm getting out of here big 1398 01:01:29,070 --> 01:01:26,800 thanks to dr. Mel hem again dirty 1399 01:01:29,790 --> 01:01:29,080 electricity is the book and I'll see you 1400 01:01:32,250 --> 01:01:29,800 next time 1401 01:01:34,380 --> 01:01:32,260 your move electrical exposures corporate 1402 01:01:36,750 --> 01:01:34,390 crime cover-up errs and architects of a 1403 01:01:42,380 --> 01:01:36,760 harmful electric grid 1404 01:01:47,910 --> 01:01:42,390 you're [\h__\h] hmm they built a little 1405 01:01:53,870 --> 01:01:47,920 empire out of some crazy garbage called 1406 01:01:58,950 --> 01:01:53,880 the blood on the exploited working-class 1407 01:02:02,940 --> 01:01:58,960 but they've overcome their shyness now 1408 01:02:10,620 --> 01:02:02,950 we're calling them your highness and the 1409 01:02:13,940 --> 01:02:10,630 world screams save me THC they destroyed 1410 01:02:19,350 --> 01:02:13,950 the bonds of friendship and respect 1411 01:02:23,390 --> 01:02:19,360 between the only people left who'd even 1412 01:02:27,780 --> 01:02:23,400 look them in the eye 1413 01:02:32,460 --> 01:02:27,790 now they laugh and make a fortune off 1414 01:02:36,790 --> 01:02:32,470 the same ones that they tortured and a 1415 01:02:45,970 --> 01:02:36,800 world screams save me THC 1416 01:03:01,530 --> 01:02:55,790 mr. Jesus away now we are the only one 1417 01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:01,540 who can tell me if it's true 1418 01:03:13,810 --> 01:03:06,730 [Music] 1419 01:03:18,390 --> 01:03:13,820 - they built a little Empire out of some 1420 01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:18,400 crazy garbage called the blood of the 1421 01:03:27,630 --> 01:03:22,530 exploited working class 1422 01:03:31,500 --> 01:03:27,640 but they've overcome their shyness now 1423 01:03:35,990 --> 01:03:31,510 we're calling them your highness and the 1424 01:03:40,670 --> 01:03:36,000 world screams save me THC